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Official Diamond and Pearl Anime Thread (Spoilers for Future Episodes)

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    pikastatic100

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    BAC510 wrote:

    Aaerni wrote:
    I seriously doubt that Grotle will be able to beat Rhyperior. It's already lost twice against a Honchkrow, and everybody knows that Rhyperior is a much more powerful Pokemon than Honchkrow. If it couldn't beat a Honchkrow, then it won't stand even the slightest chance against a Rhyperior.

    I am going to take a wild guess but do you know that Rhyperior is a Ground/Rock, Honchkrow is a Dark/Flying, and Grotle is a Grass Type? Last time I checked, Rhyperior beats Honchkrow(Type Wise), Honchkrow defeats Grotle, and Grotle defeats Rhyperior. Grotle lost the first time because it had lost its Speed and the second time was because it still was not able to utilise its full potential yet and Grotle seemed a bit nervous to fight Honchkrow a second time.

    When I look at DP141's Preview., Grotle looks like it is doing much better than it did against Honchkrow. Sure type isn't always everything in the Anime but a times 4 advanatage over a Rhyperior can give Grotle a much better chance at winning.


    I agree, Grotle is also at a disadvantage against Honchkrow type-wise, yet this time the one with the type disadvantage is Rhyperior, times two. Besides, Grotle deserves a "pwn a Rhyperior that belongs to the Tower Tycoon" shining moment.
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    Aaerni

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    Just because Grotle has the type advantage over Rhyperior doesn't mean Grotle will win. Grotle just isn't strong enough to beat a Pokemon as powerful as Rhyperior, especially if the Rhyperior belongs to an elite trainer like the Tower Tycoon Palmer. At least in my view, Rhyperior is one of the Top 15 strongest non-legendary Pokemon. Grotle doesn't stand a chance. Sorry folks, but I think Ash will lose again.
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    Pikachu315111

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    Aaerni wrote:
    Just because Grotle has the type advantage over Rhyperior doesn't mean Grotle will win. Grotle just isn't strong enough to beat a Pokemon as powerful as Rhyperior, especially if the Rhyperior belongs to an elite trainer like the Tower Tycoon Palmer. At least in my view, Rhyperior is one of the Top 15 strongest non-legendary Pokemon. Grotle doesn't stand a chance. Sorry folks, but I think Ash will lose again.

    Unfortunetly you're probably right, I mean we need Ash to somehow be aware there is another (or two) Battle Frontier(s), and they need to show that Ash isn't ready to take them until he's done with the Sinnoh League.

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    edmasterchaos

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    Hey, if Grotle gets to have such a cool battle without all those same explosions and same attack scenes, i don't care if he looses in the end.

    Plus, Grotle lost to Honchrow because type disadvantage, as their trainers were on 'even grounds' any advantage was significant, it also helped that Paul had Light Screen'd his bird previously limiting Grotle to Rock Climb and Synthesis as his other attacks would do almost no damage at all, and the fact that Ash chose a terrible time to use Synthesis.
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    pikastatic100

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    The dub title for the episode featuring the Ping Pong Tournament and Ambipom's release, has been revealed:

    DP124 - To Thine Own Pokemon Be True!
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    HaydenAvery

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    i seriously doubt grotle losing. its much stronger now and knows rock climb. i have a good feeling that grotle will win or do we need to place bets?
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    pikastatic100

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    HaydenAvery wrote:
    i seriously doubt grotle losing. its much stronger now and knows rock climb. i have a good feeling that grotle will win or do we need to place bets?

    In this case, the fact that Grotle knows Rock Climb is most likely irrelevant. Not only is Rhyperior resistant to the move, it has extremely high defensive powers, as well. If Grotle is going to win, it'll have to rely on its Grass-type moves, namely Energy Ball.

    I do hope that Grotle wins, though I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't.

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    BAC510

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    pikastatic100 wrote:
    The dub title for the episode featuring the Ping Pong Tournament and Ambipom's release, has been revealed: DP124 - To Thine Own Pokemon Be True!

    I am going to try and wake up early that day, so I can make the Episode Discussion myself, since Ambipom is my favorite!

    Grotle will win! Believe it!

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    HaydenAvery

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    yea Grotle FTW! stupid dawn letting ambipom leave like that!
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    edmasterchaos

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    Bac, i will try to ignore the last sentence you said .___. I want grotle to win, and he should, there are a number of factors in his favor, but one big one against him, it's not just Grotle Vs Rhyperior, it's Ash Vs. Tower Tycoon, him winning so soon against the leader of the Battle Frontier is simply illogical, and seeing how sequencial the series is, it's a sure bet that Ash looses and is motivated to fight the battle frontier once he finishes with the Shinnoh League...
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    BAC510

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    edmasterchaos wrote:
    Bac, i will try to ignore the last sentence you said .___. I want grotle to win, and he should, there are a number of factors in his favor, but one big one against him, it's not just Grotle Vs Rhyperior, it's Ash Vs. Tower Tycoon, him winning so soon against the leader of the Battle Frontier is simply illogical, and seeing how sequencial the series is, it's a sure bet that Ash looses and is motivated to fight the battle frontier once he finishes with the Shinnoh League...

    Well it this is only a 1 on 1 battle. And if you look back at all the times Ash battled someone like this, he ALWAYS lost:

    Drake- Hoenn Elite 4

    Agatha- Kanto Elite 4

    Prima- Kanto Elite 4

    Norman- Hoenn Gym Leader

    * These are only the ones where Ash faced too early.

    It is time things change a little, even if it seems illogical. And like I said above, it is only a 1 on 1 battle. And it is not like Ash is going get a Print from Palmer(if that is what it will be called) if Ash wins. Besides, I am sure that they will have an official battle and it will be at least a 3 on 3 match, with Milotic and Dragonite being in the battle as well.

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    thec0mebackman

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    you guys got a pretty good argument goin on. at first i thought Grotle would win but then Aerni made a good counterargument. but like BAC said i think it's time for things to change a little too. but all in all ...the battle is makin me more excited to watch this episode. cus Grotle winning or losing definitely is a 50/50 chance
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    HaydenAvery

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    yea grotle could win! thus motivating it for the next gym enough to win for ash! and remember sinnoh hasnt been all that predictable so far!
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    BAC510

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    HaydenAvery wrote:
    yea grotle could win! thus motivating it for the next gym enough to win for ash! and remember sinnoh hasnt been all that predictable so far!

    Yep Grotle will win the Sunyshore Gym Badge for Ash.

    I think the whole series in general is predictable. Ash & Co. meets an Elite 4 Member, a battle begins and Ash & Co. lose against him/her. Kanto & Sinnoh have been similar, and Johto too.

    Kanto Sinnoh- Ash got his entire team of 6 before reaching the 3rd gym of that region. Charizard & Mamoswine disobeying their trainers.

    Johto, well the Number of Episodes. At EP141 of the Johto Saga, it around when Ash gets his 8th Badge, so they are similar with how many episodes they have.

    Anyways, Grotle better win! I am rooting for it!

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    BAC510 wrote:

    edmasterchaos wrote:
    Bac, i will try to ignore the last sentence you said .___. I want grotle to win, and he should, there are a number of factors in his favor, but one big one against him, it's not just Grotle Vs Rhyperior, it's Ash Vs. Tower Tycoon, him winning so soon against the leader of the Battle Frontier is simply illogical, and seeing how sequencial the series is, it's a sure bet that Ash looses and is motivated to fight the battle frontier once he finishes with the Shinnoh League...

    Well it this is only a 1 on 1 battle. And if you look back at all the times Ash battled someone like this, he ALWAYS lost:

    Drake- Hoenn Elite 4

    Agatha- Kanto Elite 4

    Prima- Kanto Elite 4

    Norman- Hoenn Gym Leader

    * These are only the ones where Ash faced too early.

    It is time things change a little, even if it seems illogical. And like I said above, it is only a 1 on 1 battle. And it is not like Ash is going get a Print from Palmer(if that is what it will be called) if Ash wins. Besides, I am sure that they will have an official battle and it will be at least a 3 on 3 match, with Milotic and Dragonite being in the battle as well.
    Brandon also kinda qualified at first, since he was the leader and Ash faced him second or third at first, i think, though that could be an exception since Brandon did pretty much destroy Ash in each go and in teh last one he didn't use his best team.

    Things changed a little, yeah, but i doubt this'll qualify, we did see in this latter half of the saga the repeting of far too many plots.
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    BAC510 wrote:

    HaydenAvery wrote:
    yea grotle could win! thus motivating it for the next gym enough to win for ash! and remember sinnoh hasnt been all that predictable so far!

    Yep Grotle will win the Sunyshore Gym Badge for Ash.

    I think the whole series in general is predictable. Ash & Co. meets an Elite 4 Member, a battle begins and Ash & Co. lose against him/her. Kanto & Sinnoh have been similar, and Johto too.

    Kanto Sinnoh- Ash got his entire team of 6 before reaching the 3rd gym of that region. Charizard & Mamoswine disobeying their trainers.

    Johto, well the Number of Episodes. At EP141 of the Johto Saga, it around when Ash gets his 8th Badge, so they are similar with how many episodes they have.

    Anyways, Grotle better win! I am rooting for it!

    Pah, sure Grotle will be helpful in the Sunyshore Gym, but Gliscor might be a bit more useful being Ground-type are usually immuned to Electric-type attacks when the writers remember this little fact (which during Gym Battles they do, but they totally forgot this when Ash (and Paul) caught Gligar (and Gliscor)).

    edmasterchaos wrote:
    Brandon also kinda qualified at first, since he was the leader and Ash faced him second or third at first, i think, though that could be an exception since Brandon did pretty much destroy Ash in each go and in teh last one he didn't use his best team.

    Actually I think Brandon's last battle with Ash was when he did have the best team. First time "Ash", or maybe I should day King of Pokelantis Possessed Ash, battled with Brandon it was Regirock VS. Sceptile. Being a Rock-type, Sceptile had the adventage over Regirock but was shortly beaten (but this was actually good as it got the King of Pokelantis out of Ash). As for the 2nd Battle, it was Registeel VS. Torkoal and once again Ash had the type adventage. It wasn't until the final match of the final battle when Brandon was on equal terms with Ash but Ash managed to win. It should also be noted that Brandon was the only "game boss" which he lost twice two.

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    Pikachu315111 wrote:
    BAC510 wrote:

    HaydenAvery wrote:
    yea grotle could win! thus motivating it for the next gym enough to win for ash! and remember sinnoh hasnt been all that predictable so far!

    Yep Grotle will win the Sunyshore Gym Badge for Ash.

    I think the whole series in general is predictable. Ash & Co. meets an Elite 4 Member, a battle begins and Ash & Co. lose against him/her. Kanto & Sinnoh have been similar, and Johto too.

    Kanto Sinnoh- Ash got his entire team of 6 before reaching the 3rd gym of that region. Charizard & Mamoswine disobeying their trainers.

    Johto, well the Number of Episodes. At EP141 of the Johto Saga, it around when Ash gets his 8th Badge, so they are similar with how many episodes they have.

    Anyways, Grotle better win! I am rooting for it!

    Pah, sure Grotle will be helpful in the Sunyshore Gym, but Gliscor might be a bit more useful being Ground-type are usually immuned to Electric-type attacks when the writers remember this little fact (which during Gym Battles they do, but they totally forgot this when Ash (and Paul) caught Gligar (and Gliscor)).

    edmasterchaos wrote:
    Brandon also kinda qualified at first, since he was the leader and Ash faced him second or third at first, i think, though that could be an exception since Brandon did pretty much destroy Ash in each go and in teh last one he didn't use his best team.

    Actually I think Brandon's last battle with Ash was when he did have the best team. First time "Ash", or maybe I should day King of Pokelantis Possessed Ash, battled with Brandon it was Regirock VS. Sceptile. Being a Rock-type, Sceptile had the adventage over Regirock but was shortly beaten (but this was actually good as it got the King of Pokelantis out of Ash). As for the 2nd Battle, it was Registeel VS. Torkoal and once again Ash had the type adventage. It wasn't until the final match of the final battle when Brandon was on equal terms with Ash but Ash managed to win. It should also be noted that Brandon was the only "game boss" which he lost twice two.
    Isn't grotle grass/ground? or is that until torterra?

    Brandon's best team has to be Regis +1, he used only one so, although ash certainly improved and had a hard battle, i think if Brandon had fought Ash like he did Paul, Ash would've lost.
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    edmasterchaos wrote:
    Pikachu315111 wrote:
    BAC510 wrote:

    HaydenAvery wrote:
    yea grotle could win! thus motivating it for the next gym enough to win for ash! and remember sinnoh hasnt been all that predictable so far!

    Yep Grotle will win the Sunyshore Gym Badge for Ash.

    I think the whole series in general is predictable. Ash & Co. meets an Elite 4 Member, a battle begins and Ash & Co. lose against him/her. Kanto & Sinnoh have been similar, and Johto too.

    Kanto Sinnoh- Ash got his entire team of 6 before reaching the 3rd gym of that region. Charizard & Mamoswine disobeying their trainers.

    Johto, well the Number of Episodes. At EP141 of the Johto Saga, it around when Ash gets his 8th Badge, so they are similar with how many episodes they have.

    Anyways, Grotle better win! I am rooting for it!

    Pah, sure Grotle will be helpful in the Sunyshore Gym, but Gliscor might be a bit more useful being Ground-type are usually immuned to Electric-type attacks when the writers remember this little fact (which during Gym Battles they do, but they totally forgot this when Ash (and Paul) caught Gligar (and Gliscor)).

    edmasterchaos wrote:
    Brandon also kinda qualified at first, since he was the leader and Ash faced him second or third at first, i think, though that could be an exception since Brandon did pretty much destroy Ash in each go and in teh last one he didn't use his best team.

    Actually I think Brandon's last battle with Ash was when he did have the best team. First time "Ash", or maybe I should day King of Pokelantis Possessed Ash, battled with Brandon it was Regirock VS. Sceptile. Being a Rock-type, Sceptile had the adventage over Regirock but was shortly beaten (but this was actually good as it got the King of Pokelantis out of Ash). As for the 2nd Battle, it was Registeel VS. Torkoal and once again Ash had the type adventage. It wasn't until the final match of the final battle when Brandon was on equal terms with Ash but Ash managed to win. It should also be noted that Brandon was the only "game boss" which he lost twice two.
    Isn't grotle grass/ground? or is that until torterra?

    Brandon's best team has to be Regis +1, he used only one so, although ash certainly improved and had a hard battle, i think if Brandon had fought Ash like he did Paul, Ash would've lost.

    Grotle is a pure Grass-type, only Chimchar of the Sinnoh Starters gains a second type after evolving into Monferno.

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    DayDreamer15

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    It's true,

    Grotle is pure grass

    only becomes ground/grass when evolved into Torterra

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    BAC510

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    DayDreamer15 wrote:

    It's true,

    Grotle is pure grass

    only becomes ground/grass when evolved into Torterra

    Well technically Grass/Ground.

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