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Movie 13: Ruler of Illusions Zoroark (Original version)

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    Shiny_missingno

    [41]Dec 23, 2009
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    sounds odd yet....interseting...but more legends fighting each other?

    movie 1, 2, 6(technically), 7,10,11,12

    7, seven movies already....the plot's kinda getting old......

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    edmasterchaos

    [42]Dec 23, 2009
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    Mew can transform, but i mean something that can control matter, mainly for himself like celebi, but can, make other poeple chairs and stuff. Bad future where the beasts hunt down celebi? if it involves showing a future where there's Evil Adult Ash ruling with Iron Fist those pokemon and/or the world, i'm sold.
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    TotallyTyler01

    [43]Dec 23, 2009
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    I wonder about that one poster... with pikachu, pipup, croagunk, and tangrowth... I wonder if dawn or brock will get him... or he must be a role pokemon. Mew... I doubt mew would return. I just think Ruler Z could be a newer legendary... that would eventually lead to Gen. 5. But who knows. The evil ash could be an illusion. The Z person rules illusion.
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    syrusfan

    [44]Dec 23, 2009
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    Jeez, again withe legendaries fighting? Can't they think of a new idea? They already did that for the past 3 movies.
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    Pikachu315111

    [45]Dec 23, 2009
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    Let's count how many times Legendaries fought:

    1. Pokemon the First Movie - Mewtwo Strikes Back - Mewtwo fights Mew
    2. Pokemon the Movie 2000 - The Power of One - Bird Trio fight with themselves and with Lugia
    3. Jirachi: Wish Maker - Jirachi fights Groudon (though it was a fake one)
    4. Destiny Deoxys - Deoxys fights Rayquaza
    5. The Rise of Darkrai - Dialga, Palkia, and Darkrai fought with each other
    6. Giratina and the Sky Warrior - Giratina and Dialga fought shortly, Shaymin and Giratina also had short conflict
    7. Arceus and the Jewel of Life - Giratina and Dialga fought shortly, Arceus fought against all the Dragon Trio

    I know Shiny_missingno already said this, thought he just said what movie number was, not the title or who was fighting.

    Edited on 12/23/2009 9:26pm
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    Lucario_ftw

    [46]Dec 23, 2009
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    I wonder if this "Z" person has any relation to Porygon-Z...
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    Shiny_missingno

    [47]Dec 23, 2009
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    well he is a glitchy pokemon

    but since the "incident" it'll never happen

    and if they do have it I'll die of shock

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    edmasterchaos

    [48]Dec 24, 2009
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    Lucario_ftw wrote:
    I wonder if this "Z" person has any relation to Porygon-Z...
    That, would be epic, a stand-up of giant proportions, 12 or so years after such infamous event, pokemon company decides to say "Screw it, we liked Porygon a lot, Porygon-Z is one of our favorites. He will be the main character in the next big freakin' movie" i highly doubt it, but if it were to happen, it would be an example for men everywhere.
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    EddyBob15

    [49]Jan 8, 2010
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    Alright, here's my theory: I'm thinking that the villain of the film, Phatom Ruler Z, is that evil Ash that was seen in the trailer. After all, he's called Phantom "Champion" Z, which leads to believe that Z is a powerful evil trainer, hence he's in the form of a dark Ash.
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    Shiny_missingno

    [50]Jan 9, 2010
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    what made you belive it wasnt him?

    it was kinda obvious

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    Pikachu315111

    [51]Jan 9, 2010
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    Shiny_missingno wrote:

    what made you belive it wasnt him?

    it was kinda obvious

    We don't know anything about this Phantom Z, I still believe he has shapeshifting powers (or create the illusen he looks like someone else).

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    EddyBob15

    [52]Jan 9, 2010
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    Believe what you want, Pikachu, but I believe that Phantom's true form is that of an evil version of Ash. What can I say? Having the hero encounter an dark version of himself appeals to me alot and I don't believe Ash and Co. have experienced that scenario yet.
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    edmasterchaos

    [53]Jan 9, 2010
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    I would like to think he is an Evil Ash from the future, where something made Ash become evil and cool and rules the future with iron fist. But, that would probably be way too cool for a Pokemon movie to do...
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    Pikachu315111

    [54]Jan 9, 2010
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    edmasterchaos wrote:
    I would like to think he is an Evil Ash from the future, where something made Ash become evil and cool and rules the future with iron fist. But, that would probably be way too cool for a Pokemon movie to do...

    Well the main problem I'm having with the Evil Ash thing is that both regular and Evil Ash are the same age. In addition the whole "Evil Self" thing is a bit cliche, but if they pull it off in a good way so that it doesn't feel like it's a bad fanfic, then I'll be okay with it. (though until I'm proven wrong, I'm going to stick with my theory. With all of us WMG (wild mass guessing), one of us might blindly hit the bullseye )

    Edited on 01/09/2010 10:10am
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    Shiny_missingno

    [56]Jan 9, 2010
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    Evil twin?

    lol

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    lady_god

    [57]Jan 10, 2010
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    dont you guys ever find it annoying when you do all this specualting and then the movie is everything you thought it wouldnt be
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    Shiny_missingno

    [58]Jan 10, 2010
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    but that's the fun part
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    EddyBob15

    [59]Jan 10, 2010
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    Yeah, and with every fan speculating on the plot, someone's bound to be right. As for Ash's evil counterpart, I wouldn't say he's from the future like Celebi. I believe he comes from alternate world which he rules, or does that sound too corny?
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    syrusfan

    [60]Jan 10, 2010
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    EddyBob15 wrote:
    Yeah, and with every fan speculating on the plot, someone's bound to be right. As for Ash's evil counterpart, I wouldn't say he's from the future like Celebi. I believe he comes from alternate world which he rules, or does that sound too corny?
    They've had Pokemon that controlled space, time, land, sea, clone Pokemon, sea pokemon, weather {okemon, the Reverse World, Ash getting turned into a Pikachu, Team Rocket is not dead by now. Comapred to that, a ruler of an alternate dimension makes sense.
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