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    scottreed

    [221]Jul 20, 2006
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    Hey its me MidnightScott:

    Well, I decided now that im gonna give this a chance...Japanese music is awesome, and atleast the voices will be close. Im also glad Mastermind was redubbed, that was a horrible special.

    I'm still going to miss the old voices, but I guess we can't do anything about it now.

    So this is why they are taking forever to release the 8th Movie - because they are adding the special to the DVD. Okay, and the Mew card being added makes it worthwile.

    Oh yeah, you can also preorder the 8th Movie on Pokémon Center.com, but its gonna cost you like $30 - but you get a Lucario Chubbi PokeDoll with it (not the same Lucario PokeDoll I have)
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    pokemonlover908

    [222]Jul 21, 2006
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    The "Save The Dub" efforts have failed, so this thread is now done for and shall rest in peace.
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    pokemon4ever

    [223]Jul 21, 2006
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    Yeah I'm gonna give the new VA's a chance too.

    PokeBeach.com wrote:
    Why the 4Kids/PUSA Switcharoo Happened - I talked to several PUSA reps about this, and I have talked to several 4Kids voice actors about this, and in combining their two stories, the reason why the change happened is clear. PUSA took away the rights from 4Kids to dub the show because they asked for too much money, and 4Kids knew they asked for too much money. Thus, PUSA decided to take the dubbing of the show back to TAJ Studios, which did the dubbing for the first five or so seasons of the show. PUSA then approached the main voice actors of the show, such as Meowth and Ash, (despite what the VAs say), but 4Kids WOULD NOT let them go work for PUSA. When Veronica Taylor found out she was losing her job, she phoned PUSA almost every single day begging them to make 4Kids change their contracts, but PUSA could not do anything about it since they were under contract with 4Kids. When I e-mailed Taylor and told her about what I heard about her talking on the phone to PUSA a while ago (since I had heard this story before and had it retold to me today), she replied with "I feel my privacy has been invaded and I will no longer talk to you (something like that)." PUSA also informed me that while the VAs constantly are denying the fact that PUSA approached them to do the voices, THEY DID, and they were in contact with some of the actors, such as Taylor on a constant basis. Thus, if you want to blame anyone for this, blame 4Kids, not PUSA or the voice actors. As a PUSA rep put it today, "It's no one's fault, everyone is a victim (in reference to the old VAs and PUSA)."

    Also, no matter what ANYONE does or says, PUSA WILL NOT be changing the voice actors back to the originals (they specifically mentioned that certain individual's radicalism towards trying to save the old voice actors would not sway them, especially when they did not even have their facts straight). They CAN'T, since it was 4Kids' decision. They have already settled in with their new VAs, and nothing will be changed in the future, no matter what a select few fans do (stop wasting your time, folks). The end. Everyone needs to learn to adapt to change, and if you cannot even get used to a couple of voice actors, then you are going to have some real problems in the real world. PUSA said they understood why fans were upset, saying that they were upset too and it is completely understandable for fans to be upset. However, there was nothing they could do to get the original actors to dub the show, and thus, they had to go find new ones. It was even said that at one point, they were seriously considering canceling the show, but instead, they decided to take it into their own hands. The general consensus was that they were sick of people “beating the dead horse,” and that they have moved on to working on the show now, not worrying about the old VAs anymore. They will not be returning to the issue.

    Who thinks this is true?

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    blueMnM415

    [224]Jul 21, 2006
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    pokemon4ever wrote:

    Yeah I'm gonna give the new VA's a chance too.

    PokeBeach.com wrote:
    Why the 4Kids/PUSA Switcharoo Happened - I talked to several PUSA reps about this, and I have talked to several 4Kids voice actors about this, and in combining their two stories, the reason why the change happened is clear. PUSA took away the rights from 4Kids to dub the show because they asked for too much money, and 4Kids knew they asked for too much money. Thus, PUSA decided to take the dubbing of the show back to TAJ Studios, which did the dubbing for the first five or so seasons of the show. PUSA then approached the main voice actors of the show, such as Meowth and Ash, (despite what the VAs say), but 4Kids WOULD NOT let them go work for PUSA. When Veronica Taylor found out she was losing her job, she phoned PUSA almost every single day begging them to make 4Kids change their contracts, but PUSA could not do anything about it since they were under contract with 4Kids. When I e-mailed Taylor and told her about what I heard about her talking on the phone to PUSA a while ago (since I had heard this story before and had it retold to me today), she replied with "I feel my privacy has been invaded and I will no longer talk to you (something like that)." PUSA also informed me that while the VAs constantly are denying the fact that PUSA approached them to do the voices, THEY DID, and they were in contact with some of the actors, such as Taylor on a constant basis. Thus, if you want to blame anyone for this, blame 4Kids, not PUSA or the voice actors. As a PUSA rep put it today, "It's no one's fault, everyone is a victim (in reference to the old VAs and PUSA)."

    Also, no matter what ANYONE does or says, PUSA WILL NOT be changing the voice actors back to the originals (they specifically mentioned that certain individual's radicalism towards trying to save the old voice actors would not sway them, especially when they did not even have their facts straight). They CAN'T, since it was 4Kids' decision. They have already settled in with their new VAs, and nothing will be changed in the future, no matter what a select few fans do (stop wasting your time, folks). The end. Everyone needs to learn to adapt to change, and if you cannot even get used to a couple of voice actors, then you are going to have some real problems in the real world. PUSA said they understood why fans were upset, saying that they were upset too and it is completely understandable for fans to be upset. However, there was nothing they could do to get the original actors to dub the show, and thus, they had to go find new ones. It was even said that at one point, they were seriously considering canceling the show, but instead, they decided to take it into their own hands. The general consensus was that they were sick of people “beating the dead horse,” and that they have moved on to working on the show now, not worrying about the old VAs anymore. They will not be returning to the issue.

    Who thinks this is true?
    I dont really think there is much we can do now. The fight was long and hard, but we lost nun-the-less.

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    SPDShadowRanger

    [225]Jul 21, 2006
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    We have confirmation, the old VA's are gone for good. Stupid Contracts!
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    benowen17

    [226]Jul 29, 2006
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    What most people realize is that its VERY expensive to air a show... With each season the show gets more expensive to air.  Which is one reason why cartoon network's Teen Titans ended... When tv series air THIS long and have SOO many episodes, it becomes VERY expensive.

    THATS why the original VA;s arent lowering their asking price, its way cheaper to just change voice actors.

    I just REALLY hope they are back by the season after this (if Pokemon survives this season)...

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    mstrgmr

    [227]Jul 29, 2006
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    Did you not even read the post above yours? The VAs are gone, and they're not coming back
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    SPDShadowRanger

    [228]Jul 29, 2006
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    benowen17 wrote:

    What most people realize is that its VERY expensive to air a show... With each season the show gets more expensive to air.  Which is one reason why cartoon network's Teen Titans ended... When tv series air THIS long and have SOO many episodes, it becomes VERY expensive.

    THATS why the original VA;s arent lowering their asking price, its way cheaper to just change voice actors.

    I just REALLY hope they are back by the season after this (if Pokemon survives this season)...



    The editor said not to post in this anymore. Learn the word: READ.

    Teen Titans ended because there was no good ideas for Season 6.

    Why do all your stupid people think Pokemon is going to go under after Season 9!!! Just because the Voice Actors are changing doesn't mean we aren't going to stop watching the show.

    If you stop watching the show just because of new voice actors, then your not a true fan!
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