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    edmasterchaos

    [161]Dec 20, 2009
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    I'm just going over the fact that Taillow only has one evolution, so it 'should' be slightly stronger

    Taillow 2 Starly0
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    Shiny_missingno

    [162]Dec 20, 2009
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    actually taillow is only faster

    the other stats are equal

    starly.....it's moves are more powerful

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    Pikachu315111

    [163]Dec 20, 2009
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    Pokemon:
    Taillow
    Type: Normal/Flying
    Ability:
    Guts (Raises Attack by 50% if afflicted by Burn, Parayliss, Poison, or Sleep. The Attack drop from Burn doesn't occur)
    Base Stats:
    =HP: 40
    =Attack: 55
    =Defense: 30
    =Special Attack: 30
    =Special Defense: 30
    =Speed: 85
    =Total: 270
    Weakness (2x): Rock, Electric, & Ice
    Resistance (.5x): Bug
    & Grass
    Immunity (0x): Ground
    & Ghost
    Moveset Analysis (Leveling Up):

    For attacks there are Normal-type Quick Attack (STAB) and Flying-type Peck, Wing attack, Aerial Ace, & Air Slash (STAB). Tactical we have Growl, Focus Energy, Double Team, & Agility. We also have Endeavor and being we also have Quick Attack, this makes Tailow a F.E.A.R. Pokemon!
    Moveset Analysis (TM/HM):
    Steel-type Steel Wing breaks through Rock- and Ice-types. We also have Dark-type Theif; Bug-type U-turn; Normal-type Frustration, Return, Facade, & Secret Power (STAB); and Flying-type Pluck & Fly (STAB). Tactical there is Sunny Day, Rain Dance, Roost, & Defog amoung the usual.
    Moveset Analysis (Breeding):
    Dark-type Pursuit; Normal-type Rage (STAB); and Flying-type Brave Bird & Sky Attack (STAB). Tactical there is Mirror Move, Refresh, Supersonic, & Whirlwind.
    Moveset Analysis (Tutoring):
    Fire-type Heat Wave melts Ice-types as Ground-type Mud-Slap churns away Rock- and Electric-types. Other attacks would include Ghost-type Ominous Wind; Dragon-type Twister; Normal-type Snore & Swift (STAB); and Flying-type Air Cutter (STAB).


    Pokemon:
    Starly
    Type: Normal/Flying
    Ability:
    Keen Eye
    = (In Battle: Prevents Accuracy decrease)
    = (Outside Battle: If leading the party, decreases encountering a lower-level wild Pokemon by 50%)
    Base Stats:
    =HP: 40
    =Attack: 55
    =Defense: 30
    =Special Attack: 30
    =Special Defense: 30
    =Speed: 60
    =Total: 245
    Weakness (2x): Rock, Electric, & Ice
    Resistance (.5x): Bug
    & Grass
    Immunity (0x): Ground
    & Ghost
    Moveset Analysis (Leveling Up):

    Attacks are Normal-type Tackle, Quick Attack, & Take Down (STAB) and Flying-type Wing Attack, Aerial Ace, & Brave Bird (STAB). For tactical it's Growl, Double Team, Whirlwind, & Agility. We also have Endeavor and being Starly comes equiped with Quick Attack, it also is a F.E.A.R. Pokemon!
    Moveset Analysis (TM/HM):
    Steel-type Steel Wing breaks through Rock- and Ice-types. We also have Dark-type Theif; Bug-type U-turn; Normal-type Frustration, Return, Facade, & Secret Power (STAB); and Flying-type Pluck & Fly (STAB). Tactical there is Sunny Day, Rain Dance, Roost, & Defog amoung the usua... *shiver* sorry, got a sense of deja vu.
    Moveset Analysis (Breeding):
    Got Ghost-type Astonish; Dark-type Pursuit; and Normal-type Double Edge & Fury Attack (STAB). Tactical there is FeatherDance, Foresight, & Sand-Attack.
    Moveset Analysis (Tutoring):
    Fire-type Heat Wave melts Ice-types as Ground-type Mud-Slap churns away Rock- and Electric-types. Other attacks would include Ghost-type Ominous Wind; Dragon-type Twister; Normal-type Snore & Swift (STAB); and Flying-type Air Cutter (STAB... there is that odd sense of deja vu again!

    They're pretty much the same excpet for one difference, Tailow if faster...

    MY CHOICE:
    TAILLOW


    Taillow: 4 | Starly: 0

    Edited on 12/23/2009 10:28pm
    Edited 2 total times.
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    HaydenAvery

    [164]Dec 20, 2009
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    taillow wins. Weavile vs Persian!

    Weavile: 1

    Persian: 0
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    edmasterchaos

    [165]Dec 20, 2009
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    Weavile2 Persian0
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    Shiny_missingno

    [166]Dec 20, 2009
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    weavile

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    Pikachu315111

    [167]Dec 20, 2009
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    Pokemon:
    Weavile
    Type: Dark/Ice
    Ability:
    Pressure
    = (In Battle: Doubles the PP of the move used by a Pokemon that damaged this Pokemon (even partner Pokemon in double battles))
    = (Outside Battle: If leading party, there is a 50% increased chance of encountering a high-leveled wild Pokemon)
    Base Stats:
    =HP: 70
    =Attack: 120
    =Defense: 65
    =Special Attack: 45
    =Special Defense: 85
    =Speed: 125
    =Total: 510
    Weakness (4x): Fighting
    Weakness (2x): Rock, Bug, Steel,
    & Fire
    Resistance (.5x): Ghost, Ice,
    & Dark
    Immunity (0x): Psychic
    Moveset Analysis (Leveling Up):

    Fighting-type Revenge beats on Rock- and Steel-types while Steel-type Metal Claw crushes its way through Rock-types. Other attacks are Normal-type Scratch, Quikc Attack, & Fury Swipes; Dark-type Assurance, Faint Attack, Night Slash, Fling, & Dark Pulse (STAB); and Ice-type Icy Wind (STAB). Tactical we have Embargo, Leer, Taunt, Screech, & Nasty Plot.
    Moveset Analysis (TM/HM):
    Fighting-type Focus Punch, Brick Break, Focus Blast, & Rock Smash beat down Rock- and Steel-types; Steel-type Iron Tail smashes Rock-types; Ground-type Dig buries Fire-, Rock-, and Steel-types; Flying-type Aerial Ace blows away Fighting- and Bug-types; Psychic-type Dream Eater (no, it doesn't learn any sleep-inducing moves) munches on dreams of Fighting-types; and Water-type Surf & Whirlpool washes away Rock-types. If that wasn't enough we also have Normal-type Hyper Beam, False Swipe, Giga Impact, Cut, & Strength; Ghost-type Shadow Ball & Shadow Claw; Bug-type X-Scissor; Poison-type Poison Jab; Ice-type Ice Beam, Blizzard (+ Hail), & Avalanche (STAB); and Dark-type Thief & Payback (STAB). If THAT wasn't enough we also have tactical moves like Calm Mind, Sunny Day, Torment, Snatch, Swords Dance, & Psych Up along with the usual.
    Moveset Analysis (Breeding):
    Fighting-type Counter brings back the pain to Rock- and Steel-types. We also got Normal-type Crush Claw, Double Hit, & Fake Out; Dark-type Bite, Punishment, & Pursuit (STAB); and Ice-type Ice Punch & Ice Shard (STAB). Tactical wise there is Assist, Foresight, Reflect, & Spite.
    Moveset Analysis (Tutoring):
    Fighting-type Low Kick trips up Rock- and Steel-types while Ground-type Mud-Slap covers up Fire-, Rock-, and Steel-types. Other attacks would be Bug-type Fury Cutter as far as unique and non-usual attacks would go.


    Pokemon:
    Persian
    Type: Normal
    Ability:
    = Limber (Prevents Paralysis)
    = Technician (Increases all moves with a power of 60 or lower by 1.5x)
    Base Stats:
    =HP: 65
    =Attack: 70
    =Defense: 60
    =Special Attack: 65
    =Special Defense: 65
    =Speed: 115
    =Total: 440
    Weakness (2x): Fighting
    Immunity (0x): Ghost
    Moveset Analysis (Leveling Up):

    THANK ARCEUS! A POKEMON WITH ONE WEAKNESS... I mean... umm... it knows the following attacks Rock-type Power Gem; Dark-type Bite, Faint Attack, Assurance, & Night Slash; and Normal-type Scratch, Fake Out, Fury Swipes, Slash, & Feint (STAB). Tactical there is Switcheroo, Growl, Screech, Taunt, Nasty Plot, & Captivate.
    Moveset Analysis (TM/HM):
    Flying-type Aerial Ace and Psychic-type Dream Eater takes care of Fighting-types. Other attacks are Water-type Water Pulse; Steel-type Iron Tail; Electric-type Thunderbolt, Thunder (+ Rain Dance), & Shock Wave; Ground-type Dig; Ghost-type Shadow Ball & Shadow Claw; Dark-type Thief, Pay Back, & Dark Pulse; Bug-type U-turn; and Normal-type Hyper Beam, Frustration, Return, Facade, Secret Power, Giga Impact, & Cut (STAB). Tactical there is Roar, Sunny Day, Torment, Snatch, Embargo, Flash, & Psych Up.
    Moveset Analysis (Breeding):
    We got Dark-type Punishment and Normal-type Flail & Last Resort (STAB). Tactical there is Amnesia, Assist, Charm, Hypnosis (to work with Dream Eater), Odor Sleuth, Spite, & Tail Whip.
    Moveset Analysis (Tutoring):
    Let's start with Poison-type Gunk Shot; Ice-type Icy Wind; Dark-type Knock Off; Ground-type Mud-Slap; Grass-type Seed Bomb; and Normal-type Headbutt, Snore, Swift, & Uproar (STAB).

    Now while normally I don't let speed decide for final evolutions, Weavile and Persian aren't exactly tanks in HP and defence. With a higher attack and speed...

    MY CHOICE:
    WEAVILE


    Weavile: 4 | Persian: 0

    Edited on 12/20/2009 6:11pm
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    Shiny_missingno

    [168]Dec 21, 2009
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    hey wheres haden?
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    HaydenAvery

    [169]Dec 21, 2009
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    here. weavile wins. now for Meowth vs Glameow!

    Meowth: 1

    Glameow: 0
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    Shiny_missingno

    [170]Dec 21, 2009
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    hmm the cats huh? meowth

    I have a feeling the dogs may be next

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    Pikachu315111

    [171]Dec 21, 2009
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    Pokemon: Meowth
    Type: Normal
    Ability:

    = Pickup (After a battle, there is a 10% chance this Pokemon will be carrying an item if not holding one already)
    = Technician (Increases all moves with a power of 60 or lower by 1.5x)
    Base Stats:
    =HP: 40
    =Attack: 45
    =Defense: 35
    =Special Attack: 40
    =Special Defense: 40
    =Speed: 90
    =Total: 290
    Weakness (2x): Fighting
    Immunity (0x): Ghost
    Moveset Analysis (Leveling Up):

    We have Dark-type Bite, Faint Attack, Assurance, & Night Slash and Normal-type Scratch, Fake Out, Fury Swipes, Pay Day, Slash, & Feint (STAB). Tactical there is Growl, Screech, Taunt, Nasty Plot, & Captivate.
    Moveset Analysis (TM/HM):
    Flying-type Aerial Ace and Psychic-type Dream Eater takes care of Fighting-types. Other attacks are Water-type Water Pulse; Steel-type Iron Tail; Electric-type Thunderbolt, Thunder (+ Rain Dance), & Shock Wave; Ground-type Dig; Ghost-type Shadow Ball & Shadow Claw; Dark-type Thief, Pay Back, & Dark Pulse; Bug-type U-turn; and Normal-type Frustration, Return, Facade, Secret Power, & Cut (STAB). Tactical there is Sunny Day, Torment, Snatch, Flash, & Psych Up.
    Moveset Analysis (Breeding):
    We got Dark-type Punishment and Normal-type Flail & Last Resort (STAB). Tactical there is Amnesia, Assist, Charm, Hypnosis (to work with Dream Eater), Odor Sleuth, Spite, & Tail Whip.
    Moveset Analysis (Tutoring):
    Let's start with Poison-type Gunk Shot; Ice-type Icy Wind; Dark-type Knock Off; Ground-type Mud-Slap; Grass-type Seed Bomb; and Normal-type Headbutt, Snore, Swift, & Uproar (STAB).
    Moveset Analysis (Special):
    Finally one which I'm not copy & pasting Persian's movesets above. Purify your Shadow Meowth from Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness and you'll get Dark-type Bite, Normal-type Slash & Pay Day, and the tactical move Sing. SING! Here is a good example of a Special Pokemon actually getting a useful move it couldn't learn otherwise!


    Pokemon: Glameow
    Type: Normal
    Ability:

    = Limber (Prevents Paralysis)
    = Own Tempo (Prevents Confusion)
    Base Stats:
    =HP: 49
    =Attack: 55
    =Defense: 42
    =Special Attack: 42
    =Special Defense: 37
    =Speed: 85
    =Total: 310
    Weakness (2x): Fighting
    Immunity (0x): Ghost
    Moveset Analysis (Leveling Up):

    Got Dark-type Faint Attack & Sucker Punch and Normal-type Fake Out, Scratch, Fury Swipes, & Slash (STAB). Tactical we have Growl, Charm, Assist, Captivate, Attract, and Hypnosis!
    Moveset Analysis (TM/HM):
    Flying-type Aerial Ace and Psychic-type Dream Eater takes care of Fighting-types. Other attacks are Water-type Water Pulse; Steel-type Iron Tail; Electric-type Thunderbolt, Thunder (+ Rain Dance), & Shock Wave; Ground-type Dig; Ghost-type Shadow Ball & Shadow Claw; Dark-type Thief, Pay Back, & Dark Pulse; Bug-type U-turn; and Normal-type Frustration, Return, Facade, Secret Power, & Cut (STAB). Tactical there is Sunny Day, Torment, Snatch, Flash, & Psych Up. Seriously, they are getting lazy with the TM/HM movesets.
    Moveset Analysis (Breeding):
    Got Dark-type Assurance & Bite and Normal-type Flail & Quick Attack (STAB). Tactical has Fake Tears, Sand-Attack, and Tail Whip.
    Moveset Analysis (Tutoring):
    We have Bug-type Fury Cutter; Dark-type Knock Off; Ground-type Mud-Slap; and Normal-type Heabutt, Last Resort, Snore, & Swift (STAB). We also have Normal-type Super Fang.

    So who makes it here? Being both are pretty much going to be using the same strategy, though Glameow has the higher stats it doesn't have the highest speed and with both of them know a sleep-inducing move...

    MY CHOICE:
    MEOWTH


    Meowth:
    3 | Glameow: 0

    Edited on 12/23/2009 10:31pm
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    Shiny_missingno

    [172]Dec 21, 2009
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    pikachu is probably th only one who picks on stats all the time.....

    most of the time we just pick on our opinion of them

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    Aaerni

    [173]Dec 21, 2009
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    I vote for Meowth!

    Meowth: 4 votes

    Glameow: 0 votes

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    edmasterchaos

    [174]Dec 21, 2009
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    I usually like to wait for Pikachu to post the stats and all so i can take an educated vote and not have to look up everything. But the last few times i did it the votings were already over.
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    HaydenAvery

    [175]Dec 22, 2009
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    meowth is the winner. Arbok vs Seviper!

    Seviper: 1

    Arbok: 0
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    edmasterchaos

    [176]Dec 22, 2009
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    Arbok's better speed, decent enough defenses, and the fact of learning Mud Bomb makes him my choice. Arbok1 Seviper1
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    Shiny_missingno

    [177]Dec 22, 2009
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    you're ignoring earthquake and dig too......

    which seviper can also learn along with mud-slap

    however arbok is faster

    so Arbok: 2 Seviper: 1

    damn you jessie for releasing him >_

    Edited on 12/22/2009 3:56pm
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    edmasterchaos

    [178]Dec 22, 2009
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    I just went with the moves they can learn naturally, i don't count TM moves for this "pokemon clash"
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    Shiny_missingno

    [179]Dec 22, 2009
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    but this is a tactical battle between pokemon

    and tm moves only help in strategizing

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    edmasterchaos

    [180]Dec 22, 2009
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    Actually, it's about opinion, you can go as deep into it as you want.
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