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    Pikachu315111

    [241]Oct 14, 2012
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    (continued from previous post)


    7. Though Route 22 again (I've been through this route so many times I should set up a house here), I get to the entrance of the cave portion of Giant Chasm and enter. I could have entered before but I sort of new that was end game area so I decided to wait until the game told me to go there. Apparently there were 2 grunts who were blocking your way from getting further. Hugh runs in and sees this but another grunt tells the 2 blocking grunts that they're needed in Giant Chasm. Hugh tells the lone grunt to get ready to battle but the grunt tells them he's the spy from before and allows us to pass through. There's another new exintrance on the opposite side of Giant Chasm leading to Route 23 but that's blocked off by grunts but what isn't blocked off is the front exintrance, the one which connects to Route 13. So I push the boulder to open that path up for easier access and also catch a Vanillish which evolved into a Vanilluxe one level up later! But onto the story, with all that done I then go into crater area where I find Hugh who's looking are Rood and two ex-Plasma grunts arguing with 5 neo Plasma grunts. Rood tells us he wants to try and reason with their old comrades but they believe him to be a traitor and they battle us. Me and Hugh defeat the ones we were battling but more show up however Rood and the ex-grunts hold them back and tells us to enter the Plasma Frigate and stop Team Plasma, also telling Hugh that the Shadow Triad might have his sister's Purrloin.

    8. Now if you're playing Black 2 this is where you'll now play the password puzzle while White 2 players get the pipe and teleporter puzzle, which I'll now discuss.
    Hugh is battling grunts as I board so I just go down the only new open entrance where I'm greeted by the spy again who explains the puzzle. And boy, this puzzle was a bit annoying, all I can say is trial and error (though they have a Doctor who, though is part of Team Plasma, will still hear your Pokemon because all he wants to do is stop Pokemon from getting hurt (so there still seems to be some members who believe in separating Pokemon and humans to protect Pokemon which is nice I suppose). Eventually all the electric barriers go down (having made sure to touch it before turning them off, of course) and I enter the room where Kyurem is being kept (before I was in the room above it looking down at Kyurem). Zinzolin then appears behind me and says the machine is indestructible and since I won't quit he'll have to defeat me (yes, the Ice-type trainer said he'll take the trainer, who he knows has an overleveled Emboar, down...). So after curbstomping Zinzolin he says Team Plasma will still win and I decide to head to the teleporter being blocked by a grunt who says if we want to continue then to use the other portal (they might as well have put a sign up which says "This way for game progression". Also I just curbstomped your boss, if I want to go through the portal you're blocking I don't think you can tell me no, or rather my Emboar no). However I do what the game wants me to do and we discover the boss of Team Plasma: Colress!
    Colress says he became the boss of Team Plasma on request of a friend though he's not really interested in leading Team Plasma but rather he's interested in unlocking a Pokemon's true potential, whether it be my way of raising a Pokemon, Team Plasma's by taking over the world, or even if it DESTROYS THE WORLD (great, we're getting into Xehanort level experiments here...). He then challenges us to a battle and it's rather a good battle, of course since most of his Pokemon are Steel-types or don't resist Fire-type moves Emboar wins the battle for me. After the battle Colress congratulates me and asks if I'm going to continue becoming better by understanding both Pokemon and trainers. Being I'm the good guy, I say yes, and he goes off again on how he'll bring out Pokemon's hidden potential no matter the cost and tells us our battle with Team Plamsa will prove whether my or their method is right. He tells me to use the other portal that grunt was protecting so I go back and the guy gets scared off since I beat Colress plus he doesn't have any Pokemon.
    So where does this teleporter take us? To the bid bad himself, the true freak without a heart, the mastermind behind not this plan but also Team Plasma's last takeover attempt 2 years ago: Ghetsis. He curses Colress for not caring about his plans and goes into a villain speech to how he'll use Kyurem's power to freeze Unova and take over. A Shadow Triad member then appears and tells Ghetsis that Kyurem has been transferred and Ghetsis sets of as Hugh comes in and demands the Shadow Triad to give back his sister's Purrloin. And the Shadow Triad member not knows where Purrloin is, he has it with him! However it's no longer a Purrloin but now an angry Liepard which the Shadow Triad says only listens to him and goes on how Pokemon in Pokeballs are slaves and if Ghetsis plans have succeeded 2 years ago then many Pokemon would have been saved. But now that he's done messing with Hugh he wants to mess with me... a rather poor decision when your Pokemon are Dark- and Steel-types and fighting someone who you should know uses his Fire/Fighting-type Starter often. After that the 2 other Shadow Traids appear and prevent me from following Ghetsis until I defeat all of them (and they don't just teleport you away because?), and don't expect Hugh to be doing anything as he's BSODing about Liepard. I defeat them just the same (only time one of their Pokemon got to hit me was the last one's Accelgor, but even then I 1HKO all their Pokemon) and the first Shadow Triad says it doesn't matter as all we can do is watch Ghetsis use Kyurem to freeze all of Unova. They tell Hugh he can have Liepard back as, if Ghetsis plans succeeds, they won't be needing it and teleport away leaving me, Hugh, and Liepard alone. Hugh is still BSODing so I go on to the inner cave of Giant Chasm.


    9. Within Giant Chasm's inner cave where Kyurem was in Black & White (BTW, didn't I catch you in that game?) I find Ghetsis who summons Kyurem. Ghetsis says the glare in your eyes reminds him of something (or maybe someone *winkwinknudgenudge*) and orders Kyurem to FREEZE ME WITH GLACIATE! As the player stands there and does nothing (huh? Oh, that's not me, if it was me I would have sent out Emboar to fill Kyurem's and Ghetsis's face with fists of flame), just as giant icicles are about to freeze him solid, N and Reshiram (Zekrom in Black 2) appears and uses Fusion Flare (Fusion Bolt in Black 2) to destroy Glaciate. N says his dragon told him Kyurem was suffering and how he likes Unova and won't let harm come to either Pokemon nor Unova. Ghetsis says he expected such determination from N though still hasn't forgotten how N ruined his plans even though he adopted and cared for N. Ghetsis actually was expecting N to come, or more specifically, his dragon as he uses the DNA Splicers which goes into Kyurem and a flashy animated scene takes place as Kyurem breaks the ice on its wings and uses the spikes on them to fire laser at N's dragon which turns it back into its Light/Dark Stone form. Kyurem then uses Absofusion, absorbing the Light/Dark Stone and becoming White/Black Kyurem. N is in disbelief as Ghetsis says he was going to win over people's hearts to take over Unova but now he's going to use force to do so, blaming N for Unova's "upcoming" destruction. Ghetsis then tells me (yeah, the player is now me again since we're going to actually be battling soon) to challenge Kyurem though informs us we can't catch Kyurem due to his cane emitting waves which de-activate Pokeballs (then shouldn't that mean either all of my Pokemon should have come out of their Pokeballs or I can't send out any of my Pokemon?). N says he still hears his dragon and begs us to help it as Ghetsis says he wants to see the fear in my eyes while battling Kyurem. So how did the battle go? WELL I wanted to see if what Ghetsis said about Pokeballs was true so I thought that one Fire Punch from Emboar surely wouldn't knock out a Legendary even if Emboar was 10 levels higher. Yeah, Kyurem didn't last one turn since Fire Punch DID knock it out *sigh*.
    So beating it up manages to separate N's dragon and Kyurem as N's dragon goes back to N's side and Kyurem vanishes, leaving Ghetsis angry and panicking. Ghetsis won't give up though, saying he will recapture Kyurem though first wants to destroy me. So the battle with Ghetsis begins and it goes as you expect, though I will note that it was my Ampharos which ended up taking down his Hydreigon by paralyzing it and Signal Beaming it to defeat. Yes, the Pokemon which once took down half my team now falls in rather a pathetic way... kind of fitting for what Ghetsis has become . Ghetsis is in disbelief of this saying he's the one meant to rule the world but N tries to tell him Pokemon aren't tools and people and Pokemon can become better working together. Ghetsis however won't hear it which is when one of the Shadow Triad appears and says Ghetsis has lost control and they'll take it from here which N agrees with and they vanish. N thanks me and says Kyurem is fine and will be back here, also telling me how Alder and the BW player taught him how people and Pokemon need to work together so N has been flying around the world and meeting with people and Pokemon. N then suggests I go to the Pokemon League and he flies off on his dragon as Hugh come in and asks if it's all over. Being that Ghetsis wasn't caught and I don't have Kyurem in my possession, I decide to say no though honestly it doesn't matter. Hugh says he has to bring "Purrloin" back to his sister though he can't take it out of its Pokeball yet and I "tell" him I'm heading to the Pokemon League. Hugh tells us how to get to Route 23 and we run off, even hearing from Rood that Colress has told them that I've proven my way right and he's going to disband Team Plasma, flying away on the Plasma Frigate.


    10. Route 23 is your typical location: wild Pokemon, trainer, and items. Though I will have to travel back through it with a Pokemon that knows Surf and Cut. Oh, and Waterfall. But where do you get Waterfall you maybe wondering? Why when you enter Victory Road, N will be right there and after talking more about people and Pokemon needing to work together he'll give you HM05 Waterfall! I go through the new Badge Gate which honestly I prefer the old one which has areas based on each Gym Leader. This is interesting too, a series of scanners which open locks eventually leading to the opening of the biggest door lock you may ever see! However after going into the Pokemon Center I decided to stop here for the day. I have Waterfall meaning there are several areas I can now access, plus I want to start planning my team for the Elite Four & Champion. Because of this I won't be including my team information since I might be changing it by next post.

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    edmasterchaos

    [242]Oct 14, 2012
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    woo, turns out Waterfall wasn't actually needed.


    Beat the Elite 4, and I must say that this is my favorite pokemon game to date.


    >Extensive pool of available pokemon.
    >Less ham-fisted and more intense storyline.
    >Genuine moments of literate enjoyment.
    >A rival who is a really cool and nice guy.
    >Best seventh Gym. Ever.
    >STRANGE HOUSE. (omg I loved that part!! It was so creepy and disturbing, kept me on my toes)
    >Non-battle side-quest that's actually fun.
    >Extra-battle side-quest that doesn't push you to getting PhD on how to Pokemon in order to fully enjoy it.
    >A decent achievement system.
    >The ending was simply perfect. That journey back home was sweet as all hell and i'm surprised at how well Pokemon pulled a moment like this.


    And that's without going into the extra stuff! Clocked 25 hours so far and i'm gonna work on random extras until I start my biggest quest to date: Catch 'em all.


    Anyway, my team at the end:


    Spike (Cloyster) lvl 55 [he took down Haxorus and that ancient parrot like a pro! Best use of MAX Revive ever)
    Keima (Espeon) lvl 57
    Cleo (Flygon) lvl 55
    RawVoltage (Electivire) lvl 53
    Reyn (Darmanitan) lvl 56
    Sifu Kisu (Mienshao) lvl 54


    EDIT: WHOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH. WHOOAH. HELLO. WHAT'S UP. HOWDY HOW. MERRY CHRISTMAS. CONTINUITY JUST PUNCHED ME IN THE FACE.



    ***SPOILER***


    Edited on 10/14/2012 11:46am
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    Pikachu315111

    [243]Oct 14, 2012
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    edmasterchaos wrote:


    EDIT: WHOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH. WHOOAH. HELLO. WHAT'S UP. HOWDY HOW. MERRY CHRISTMAS. CONTINUITY JUST PUNCHED ME IN THE FACE.



    ***SPOILER***




    Sort of goes against what is known about Apricorns. Maybe he meant in the region/town where he grew up there were none.

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    edmasterchaos

    [244]Oct 14, 2012
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    Wouldn't be out of the imagination to think that Unova, being in another country, was pokeballlless in every way during Drayden's youth, while Johto and maybe some parts of Kanto and others had the luxury of apricorn based balls.

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    Kwando7

    [245]Oct 15, 2012
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    Pikachu315111 wrote:


    Kwando7 wrote:


    There's a move tutor there I'm sure you guys know about.



    Not only know about, but used. How else do you think my Emboar knows Fire Punch and Vanilluxe knows Signal Beam?



    I was actually wondering about that but I could teach my Croconaw ice punch through tm when it wasn't suppose to, SoI thought there was another way.


    Got a good roaster on Including many different pokemon I haven't used before the only one I kept the same was a Crobat, starter doesn't count. Loving Lucario, Counter fixes everything Just got out of Chargestone cave.


    Apricorns aren't found in Unova probably why pokeballs didn't exist in his time


    Edited on 10/15/2012 8:54am
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    SPDShadowRanger

    [246]Oct 15, 2012
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    I just found this while stumbling around Bulbapedia. Apparently the ex-Team Rocket grunt no longer lives in Iccirus City and a former Team Magma or Team Aqua grunt live there now.
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    edmasterchaos

    [247]Oct 15, 2012
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    SPDShadowRanger wrote:
    I just found this while stumbling around Bulbapedia. Apparently the ex-Team Rocket grunt no longer lives in Iccirus City and a former Team Magma or Team Aqua grunt live there now.
    Got it, coach. Gonna confirm...


    ...uh, just got a random quiz for walking in a house.... base state vitamin question? OK. GONNA CHEAT. ...not in the fan club... got an experience share, though... Aah, uh, fffowah. Well. UM. Ok. Here's the Shadow Triad, i guess. Um... Can I say no? Damn, lost the battle forev- *Snorts, says no, goes foward again, says no, goes forward again, says no* ok, so, ran out of houses. *checks bulbapedia* aaaaah, ok, gotta make it winter.


    Ok, this has to be it. Three people, one's a cool trainer, sound editor, smooth music starts playing, nice. Poke Ranger female, ah, she says that making more ocean would mean less land pokemon which would make the ocean pokemon sad, the third one, a cueball, says basically the other side of it (expanding land) both mention that it's a secret to the other. So, it's one of each team and they're a couple, nice.

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    neoyamato_pi

    [248]Oct 16, 2012
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    Wow, still at Nimbasa. Just finished getting everyone on my team to level 30, except my starter who I just evolved. Still taking on Elesa, but didn't know you could rebattle Breeders endlessly, which made grinding easy. The game so far is pretty great. Can't wait till the end where everything is unlocked and what not.

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    Kwando7

    [249]Oct 16, 2012
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    neoyamato_pi wrote:


    but didn't know you could rebattle Breeders endlessly



    Wait What.....damn and all this time i've been killing Audino

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    Pikachu315111

    [250]Oct 16, 2012
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    Kwando7 wrote:


    neoyamato_pi wrote:


    but didn't know you could rebattle Breeders endlessly



    Wait What.....damn and all this time i've been killing Audino



    I found out after Castelia City when, after running back to the Pokemon Center to heal, I walked back out and the Breeder just outside Castelia City challenged me again.


    As soon as I clear Victory Road and choose my League Team I know of a Breeder on Route 22 I might start grinding on.

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    Kwando7

    [251]Oct 16, 2012
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    Pikachu315111 wrote:


    Kwando7 wrote:


    neoyamato_pi wrote:


    but didn't know you could rebattle Breeders endlessly



    Wait What.....damn and all this time i've been killing Audino



    I found out after Castelia City when, after running back to the Pokemon Center to heal, I walked back out and the Breeder just outside Castelia City challenged me again.


    As soon as I clear Victory Road and choose my League Team I know of a Breeder on Route 22 I might start grinding on.



    I knew about her but I thought she was the only one, I came across another near the Tower but didn't recognise that they were the same trainer group, alright time to grind for lucky number seven.


    I think Grass could be the most disadvantaged in this series Poison, Bug, Ice, Flying and technically fire

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    Krael4

    [252]Oct 16, 2012
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    Pikachu315111 wrote:

    Kwando7 wrote:


    neoyamato_pi wrote:


    but didn't know you could rebattle Breeders endlessly



    Wait What.....damn and all this time i've been killing Audino



    I found out after Castelia City when, after running back to the Pokemon Center to heal, I walked back out and the Breeder just outside Castelia City challenged me again.


    As soon as I clear Victory Road and choose my League Team I know of a Breeder on Route 22 I might start grinding on.



    I found out when I talked to a man in the gate between Castelia City and Route 4 saying that the Breeder will battle me whenever I enter Route 4. :U

    Anyway, after days of being trapped in the Castelia Sewers, being seperated from Hugh with nothing to eat but dead Rattatas...Okay I'll stop now. Basically, I never had much time to play last week, so I was in the Castelia Sewers the whole time. In the Castelia Sewers, Jinx evolved into Liepard! I really like Return on Liepard, it's powerful! So I didn't travel far before getting to Team Plasma, and Hugh and I took care of them. next Gym Leader Burgh walked in and said no suspicious people were in the sewers, so Hugh left. Then, A mysterious man walked out from the Relic Passage, he talked to me and then left. Burgh then went back to his gym. I went in the Relic Passage and caught Billdurr the Timburr! I also went in the Castelia Backlot and caught Mel Terr the Eevee! (nickname hint for which eeveelution I will be using: say Mel Terr really fast) I decided to finally challenge the Castelia City Gym.

    The gym was filled with cocoon puzzles, and to be honest I like this puzzle more than the one in B/W. I also really like the gym remix, it's nice. Anyway, Burgh wasn't too hard, I used Chimney the Koffing to spam Venoshock on Swadloon, I switched to Billdurr to spam Wake-Up Slap on Dwebble, and finally switched back to Chimney to spam Venoshock again on Leavanny. The funny thing is, Burgh's Swadloon was more threatning than his Leavanny: Leavanny's Cut was weaker than Swadloon's Struggle Bug, partially because of the Sp. Atk drop from Struggle Bug that made it longer to take out Swadloon and also because of Koffing's high Def stat. Anyway, I beat Burgh and I got the Insect Badge!

    Team: Smugwort the Servine Lv.21
    Jinx the Liepard Lv.20
    Chimney the Koffing Lv.23
    Billdurr the Timburr Lv.21
    Mel Terr the Eevee Lv.20

    Badges: Basic Badge, Toxic Badge, and Insect Badge.
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    neoyamato_pi

    [253]Oct 17, 2012
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    Found it kind of weird at first cause I swore I had already beat them, so I looked on Bulbapedia and started spamming them. Beat Elesa and working my way toward Clay now. Can't wait till my Vibrava evolves and until I can go to the PWT to see the move relearner. I evolved my Espeon a bit late so it doesn't know Psybeam or Confusion, which makes it rather hard to use atm.

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    SPDShadowRanger

    [254]Oct 17, 2012
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    Still slowly chugging alone. Yesterday and today I arrived in Mistralton City, took out all the trainers on Route 7 and the Celestial Tower. Beat the Mistralton Gym and arrived in Lentimas Town. Defeated the two trainers on the outside of Reversal Mountain as well as went through the Strange House. Tired so I'll tackle Reversal Mountain tomorrow.



    Current Team:


    Dewott (Lv 34)


    Petilil (Lv 38.)


    Flareon (Lv 37)


    Ampharos (Lv 35)


    Crobat (Lv 33)


    Krokorok (Lv 34)

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    Pikachu315111

    [255]Oct 17, 2012
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    It's time: Pokemon League!


    Emboar: Level 71: Blaze: Fire Punch, Flare Blitz, Hammer Arm, Flamethrower
    Ampharos: Level 64: Static: Thunderbolt, Discharge, Power Gem, Signal Beam
    Lucario: Level 64: Inner Focus: Aura Sphere, Psychic, Dark Pulse, Dragon Pulse
    Braviary: Level 62: Defiant: Fly, Crush Claw, Slash, Rock Slide
    Pinsir: Level 60: Mold Breaker: X-Scissor, Thrash, Brick Break, Superpower
    Vanilluxe: Level 60: Ice Body: Ice Beam, Signal Beam, Mirror Shot, Uproar


    Beingmy team had two Fighting-types, a Bug-type which also had Fighting-type moves, and two other Pokemon that knew a Bug-type attack I decided to take on:


    Grimsley

    Before Battle Preparations:
    Emboar: Black Belt (give Hammer Arm more power)
    Lucario: Expert Belt (give Aura Sphere more power)
    Pinsir: Metronome (last resort choice, if I send it out I'll only use Brick Break)
    All other Pokemon were given Exp. Share.
    Elite Four Area:
    Instead of jumping on a red carpet which moves you up to Grimsley, now there's a staircase covered by red claws making it look like a spine. Moving forward has the claws swing away to let you climb the stairs. Once up, the claws snap shut, not allowing you to leave until you defeat Grimsley. Here's what the platform Grimsley is on looks like:

    BATTLE BEGINS:
    Liepard VS. Emboar:
    As always, Liepard hits first with a Fake Out which makes Emboar flinch (now thinking about it, Lucario would have been better since it has Inner Focus). Liepard then strikes again with an Aerial Ace though thankfully it doesn't do much damage (maybe I should have given Emboar a Quick Claw...). Though this all doesn't matter in the end as a Hammer Arm takes down Liepard.

    Krookodile VS. Emboar:
    Things don't start out so good as Krookodile attacks first with an Earthquake which puts Emboar into the red.But before that Krookodile's Intimidate halved Emboar's Attack... though with Emboar's already high Attack stat, Hammer Arm having 100 Power, STAB, and finally that Black Belt giving Fighting-type moves a boost Krookodile meets the same fate as Liepard.

    Bisharp VS. Lucario:
    However with Emboar's Attack halved, HP in red,and having it's already low Speed even further slowed by 2 Stages thanks to 2 Hammer Arms. I decided to give my other Fighting-type some Dark-type battling time. Though it didn't really last that long as Lucario's Aura Sphere 1HKOed Bisharp.

    Scrafty VS. Lucario:
    If Bisharp, his best Pokemon, was taken down so easily by Lucario, what do you think happened to Scrafty? HINT: The same exact thing that happened to Bisharp.

    Grimsley has been defeated!


    Healed up Emboar & moved on to the next Elite Four Member who I'm not so worried about, especially since I have a strong Flying-type with me:


    Marshal

    Before Battle Preparations:
    Braviary: Sharp Beak (give Fly more power)
    Emboar: Quick Claw (may need the extra Speed, especially with Rock-type moves being used)
    Ampharos: Magnet (last resort choice, if sent out hopefully Thunberbolt will be powerful enough)
    All other Pokemon were given Exp. Share.
    Elite Four Area:
    Instead of jumping on a cart which wheels you up to Marshal, now we have a metal cage. One step forward has the lock on the cage swing open and the cage split opens while stairs rise up one step at a time. However when you get to the platform only your half of it is there... that's when the stairs lower and Marshal and his half of the platform comes falling down and fitting into place, stadium lights suddenly turning on:

    BATTLE BEGINS:
    Throh VS. Braviary:
    Braviary used Fly and 1HKOs.

    Conkeldurr VS. Braviary:
    Things started out like just the same, Braviary used Fly but Conkeldurr prepared itself by using Bulk Up which increased its Attack and Defense. Well Braviary has a high attack, Fly is 90 Power, STAB, and has Sharp Beak, no way Conkeldurr will survive this... except it did (even used its Sitrus Berry to heal a bit)... and 1HKOs Braviary with Stone Edge...

    Conkeldurr VS. Ampharos:
    Stone Edge is worrying me a bit so hopefully Ampharos can Thunderbolt Conkeldurr to defeat... and it does!

    Mienshao VS. Ampharos:
    Hoping for lightning to hit twice (get it?) I keep Ampharos in but Mienshao moves first and uses Bounce which isn't very effective... except it paralyzes Ampharos. However this doesn't hamper Ampharos as it sends off a Thunderbolt and 1HKOs Mienshao.

    Mienshao VS. Emboar:
    With Ampharos paralyzed I decide to let Emboar get some action and I'm luck enough to get Quick Claw to activate and Emboar uses Flamethrower (being Sawk has Sturdy I couldn't 1HKO it, MAYBE with Pinsir since it has Mold Breaker but I don't think it would have been strong enough), though maybe I should have used Fire Punch as Sawk then gets burned! Unfortunately Sawk isn't weak enough for the burn to knock it out at the end of the turn (oh, Sawk got a Brick Break in but that barely did anything) so next turn Marshal heals it with a Full Restore... only for me to inflict the same amount of damage again with Flamethrower. Next turn has Quick Claw activating again and Emboar KOs Sawk with a Flamethrower.

    Marshal has been defeated!


    I revive and heal Braviary as well as Emboar and Ampharos (as in healing them, don't need to revive them since they didn't faint, obviously). Now it's time to take on the two which I'm a bit worried about, though I decide to take on the one which I'm less worried to deal with:


    Shauntal

    Before Battle Preparations:
    Lucario: Spell Tag (I thought Lucario still had Shadow Ball...)
    Ampharos: Magnet (last resort choice, if sent out hopefully Thunberbolt will be powerful enough)
    Braviary: Hard Stone (to power-up Rock Slide for Chandelure)
    All other Pokemon were given Exp. Share.
    Elite Four Area:
    Instead of will-o-wisps picking you up and floating you up to Shauntal, instead the will-o-wisps just light up the staircase you climb up to her platform which is lighten by will-o-wisps atop her book piles which are swaying back and forth. When you interupt Shauntal you hear ayell which causes the books to fall and the will-o-wisps to vanish darkening the room. But not to worry, the lamp with the purple light shines and jumps behind Shauntal to give us this:

    BATTLE BEGINS:
    Cof-grigus VS. Lucario:
    Upon the battle starting and I get ready to select Shadow Ball is when I realized that it was Shadow Ball I had deleted to make room for Dragon Pulse. It was either get rid of Shadow Ball or Dark Pulse and I must have decided that the possibility of flinching was better then a possibility of lowering Special Defense. Of course that now means Lucario is holding the wrong item *sigh*. Well Lucario still has Dark Pulse but since it's not powered-up by BlackGlasses it leaves Cof-grigus hanging on and hitting Lucario with a Will-O-Wisp (though thankfully Lucario is a Special attacker, though the HP loss is always annoying). Shauntal uses a Full Restore but Lucario keeps on using Dark Pulse and eventually knocks out Cof-grigus before it could use another move.

    Chandelure VS. Braviary:
    My plan works perfectly and Brvairy 1HKO Chandelure with a Rock Slide before it could even move.

    Drifblim VS. Ampharos:
    Drifblim may have attacked first with Shadow Ball but Ampharos attacked last with Thunderbolt.

    Golurk VS. Ampharos:
    Golurk made me a bit worried so I decide to use Ampharos as a sacrifice (guess you can say Ampharos is a *puts on glasses and then takes them off* sacrificial lamb, YEEEAAAAAAAAAAH!) so that I can use Full Restore on Lucario. Golurk uses Earthquake, of course, but to my surprise Ampharos survived! Taking that as a hint of Ampharos not wanting to go down without a fight, I have Ampharos use Signal Beam. Sure it wasn't very effective and Golurk knocked Ampharos out with a Shadow Punch, but hey, Ampharos at least went down fighting like a true warrior would!

    Golurk VS. Braviary:
    Inspired by Ampharos's bravery, and also wanting to do some more damage before sending out Lucario, I send out Braviary. Braviary uses Fly and hits but Golurk hangs on and strikes back with a Brick Break that Critical Hits! However Braviary shows it can hang in there too and, though it doesn't Critical Hit, it does take down Golurk with a Fly... meaning I probably didn't need to sacrifice Ampharos...

    Shauntal has been defeated!


    I've defeated the Dark Gambler, the Fighting Disciple, and the Ghost Writer. All that remains in the one that I'm worried about, the Psychic Princess:


    (Sorry, getting late so I'll finish this post and one other tomorrow!)

    Edited on 10/18/2012 10:01pm
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    neoyamato_pi

    [256]Oct 18, 2012
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    I just beat Clay and finished up what happens at the PWT. Might decide on getting Volcarona instead of sticking with Growlithe or Litwick, so preparing to catch it now. Team is currently


    Samurott Lvl 38


    Vibrava Lvl 36


    Lucario Lvl 36


    Electabuzz Lvl 35


    Espeon Lvl 34


    Growlithe Lvl 29


    Drillbur Lvl 30


    Just got surf, so, aside from Volcarona, I've been exploring all the old places with surf, picking up the various items around before going through Chargestone Cave.

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    SPDShadowRanger

    [257]Oct 18, 2012
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    Litwick and Lampent are a bit annoying to train, but IMO, Chandelure is well worth the effort.
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    neoyamato_pi

    [258]Oct 19, 2012
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    SPDShadowRanger wrote:
    Litwick and Lampent are a bit annoying to train, but IMO, Chandelure is well worth the effort.
    Yeah, I looked at their moveset. It would be difficult for a while, but Chandelure has such great power. And I do have Energy Ball already. Guess I'll catch a Litwick and figure it out from there.

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    Pikachu315111

    [259]Oct 20, 2012
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    WOW! I found the BEST oversight ever: The new Rare Candy Cheat!


    Now the trainers you battle in Nimbasa City's Big Stadium and Small Court are the same trainers you battle in Black & White except now almost all of them give you items after defeating them (the sport players now even give you vitamins in post game). Now there are a few which give you Rare Candy, one is a Nursery Aide but there's at least one other: a Pokemon Breeder. "WAIT!" you say, "aren't you able to re-battle the Pokemon Breeders?" Why, yes, yes you can. You see, while playing my game I noticed there was a Breeder in Big Stadium as one of my "daily" opponents and that very fact crossed my mind. However I thought that being he was copy and pasted here me might not have that programming to be re-battlable or was programmed to only be battled once. I decided to find out and battled him (it was Pokemon Breeder Owen, there's a female Pokemon Breeder named Brooke but I don't know if she gives out Rare Candies) which is when I remembered/discovered they gave out a Rare Candy. Okay, surely they wouldn't give you a way to get pretty much an infinite amount of rare candies, so I decided to leave, come back, and I was ABLE TO BATTLE HIM AGAIN! And you know what happened after I defeated him? I got another Rare Candy! That's right, they forgot to program the Pokemon Breeder in the Big Stadium/Small Court to either only battle you once or only give you a Rare Candy once!


    Oh, and remember, you can reset the trainers in Big Stadium and Small Court just by soft resetting. Just go in, see what the trainers are in there, and if you don't like it just soft reset and it'll choose a new batch of trainers.

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    edmasterchaos

    [260]Oct 20, 2012
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    Eh, but Rare Candy does SOMETHING to EVs, so they're not that attractive nowadays.

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