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    Adv193

    [41]Feb 11, 2010
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    Anybody bet that Nintendo will decide to have the first Gym be a Rock-Type again. Seriously after what happened in Generations III and IV this whole first gym thing has gotten really stale if they decide to do it..
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    Shiny_missingno

    [42]Feb 11, 2010
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    every gym has had a rock type gym

    Brock

    Jasmine (before steel types were discorved)

    Roxanne

    Roark

    if it wont be first it will be in it

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    SPDShadowRanger

    [43]Feb 11, 2010
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    Again, I just want a Dark-Type Gym.

    The only things that I'm wondering about are what are the new Legendaries going to be in control of? We've got Sky, Earth, Sea, Time, Space, Creation itself. What is left? Also, what will the new region be based off of.

    They've already used the good locations from Japan. The only areas left are just generic looking.

    Limezz wrote:
    I'd also like to be able to catch a dragon type pokemon earlier in the game as they take a while to train and by the time you catch 'em they're probably not worth training for how long they'll take and close you usually are to the league.

    Well Gible was available for capture after you got your Second Badge.

    Edited on 02/13/2010 4:33am
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    Pikachu315111

    [44]Feb 11, 2010
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    Just a quick thing to mention, Bulbapedia has put up a page for our Generation V stars and, not surprisingly, have a different Species name for them then Serebii has mentioned. Zoroa is the Dark Fox Pokemon (not really that different from Evil Fox Pokemon). However Zoroark is the Illusory Fox Pokemon, fitting into Bulbapedia's translation of the 13th movies title "Ruler of Illusions". This also might hint toward an ability (no, not the game mechanic) to turn into different shapes (or make it looks like it has shapeshifted), meaningthe suspectation of "Z" being a being who has simply shapeshifted into an identical clone of Ash is seeming more likely, but we can't really call anything yet.

    In addition Bulbapedia has provided us with these few more tibits:

    1. Though Vulpix and Ninetales more closely resemble the origin creature in appearance, Zoroark could be based off the power of shape-shifting which the mythical fox-like Kitsune is able to do pull tricks on people. Zorua is just based off a baby fox.
    2. Zoroark comes from the Spanish word "zorro" which means "fox" and the English word "dark". Zorua is just a shortening of Zoroark's name.

    Finally, here is Zorua's and Zoroark's Bulbapedia page.


    THESE SPRITES ARE FAKE!
    (Gotta love Bulbapedia's humor sometimes )

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    DarthFreeza

    [45]Feb 12, 2010
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    Adv193 wrote:

    One thing which I believe is important for introducing new moves that can balance the ones for physical and special attacks for each type. For example, only Fire Punch, Fire Fang, Flame Wheel, Flare Blitz were the only physical Fire-type moves, which was also an issue with Electric-types. I hope this generation they create a better balance between both damage types for the moves.

    Other things to think of is if they will finally have a dark-type gym.

    I agree. It is very annoying how alot of types get a ton of physical AND special moves and how some types have only a handful of physical moves. You've already mentioned fire and electic. It's also an issue for poison and bug and I'm sure quite a few other types.
    Edited on 02/12/2010 8:52am
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    lighting_blond

    [46]Feb 12, 2010
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    I would like to see that.
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    Adv193

    [47]Feb 12, 2010
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    DarthFreeza wrote:
    Adv193 wrote:

    One thing which I believe is important for introducing new moves that can balance the ones for physical and special attacks for each type. For example, only Fire Punch, Fire Fang, Flame Wheel, Flare Blitz were the only physical Fire-type moves, which was also an issue with Electric-types. I hope this generation they create a better balance between both damage types for the moves.

    Other things to think of is if they will finally have a dark-type gym.

    I agree. It is very annoying how alot of types get a ton of physical AND special moves and how some types have only a handful of physical moves. You've already mentioned fire and electic. It's also an issue for poison and bug and I'm sure quite a few other types.

    Perhaps, but I was just giving a few quick examples.

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    DarthFreeza

    [48]Feb 12, 2010
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    Adv193 wrote:
    DarthFreeza wrote:
    Adv193 wrote:

    One thing which I believe is important for introducing new moves that can balance the ones for physical and special attacks for each type. For example, only Fire Punch, Fire Fang, Flame Wheel, Flare Blitz were the only physical Fire-type moves, which was also an issue with Electric-types. I hope this generation they create a better balance between both damage types for the moves.

    Other things to think of is if they will finally have a dark-type gym.

    I agree. It is very annoying how alot of types get a ton of physical AND special moves and how some types have only a handful of physical moves. You've already mentioned fire and electic. It's also an issue for poison and bug and I'm sure quite a few other types.

    Perhaps, but I was just giving a few quick examples.

    Understood.

    But I agree completely. If anything, there should be more attacks (physical and special) added in the newer games.
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    shadowkombat

    [49]Feb 12, 2010
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    Shiny_missingno wrote:

    So guys I was just noticing Why does one page have them with blue eyes

    and green the other?


    could the colors mean something? one evil and the other good?

    maybe the one eye is just for the ones in the movie? or something like that, you know like the spikey eared pichu

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    Shiny_missingno

    [50]Feb 12, 2010
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    shadowkombat wrote:
    Shiny_missingno wrote:

    So guys I was just noticing Why does one page have them with blue eyes

    and green the other?


    could the colors mean something? one evil and the other good?

    maybe the one eye is just for the ones in the movie? or something like that, you know like the spikey eared pichu

    the spiky ear pichu is different.......

    and why would they change the eye color for the movie? that sounds like a pointless change

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    Pikachu315111

    [51]Feb 12, 2010
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    shadowkombat wrote:
    Shiny_missingno wrote:

    So guys I was just noticing Why does one page have them with blue eyes

    and green the other?


    could the colors mean something? one evil and the other good?

    maybe the one eye is just for the ones in the movie? or something like that, you know like the spikey eared pichu

    Nah, if they were going the Spiky-Eared Pichu thing it would have been a more obvious difference then eye color.

    Of course there us also the Shiny option. Though it's always preferred for a Shiny of a Pokemon to be drastically colored differently then the original, sometimes we get a Pokemon like Jigglypuff who's noticeable difference is the eye color.

    Image:Spr_4h_039.pngImage:Spr_4h_039_s.png
    (Okay, okay, yay, Shiny Jigglypuff are a light pink, but it's the green eyes that stand out as the main color change.)

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    shadowkombat

    [52]Feb 12, 2010
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    just thought need a sableye evo as well
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    AnimeMadness

    [53]Feb 12, 2010
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    I just don't want the female player to have pigtails again...
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    EddyBob15

    [54]Feb 12, 2010
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    SPDShadowRanger wrote:
    Again, I just want a Dark-Type Gym. The only things that I'm wondering about are what are the new Legendaries going to be in control of? We've got Sky, Earth, Land, Time, Space, Creation itself. What is left?

    First off, SPD, you left out Sea. Second of all, perhaps the newest Legendary could control reality itself.

    SPDShadowRanger wrote:
    Well Gible was available for capture after you got your Second Badge.

    This might sound crazy, but I'm betting Ash caught Gible because in Gen V, it gets a new branch evolution.

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    Aaerni

    [55]Feb 12, 2010
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    @ the last post: If they make a branched evolution for Gible in Gen V, they'll probably also make branched evolutions for Dratini, Larvitar, Bagon, and Beldum, since these Pokemon are the five Pseudo-Legendaries.
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    Shiny_missingno

    [56]Feb 12, 2010
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    a branched evolution?

    that sounds......................................................terrible honestly

    why would almost ubers need even more forms

    and if they all get it the branch wouldnt be special

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    Oreno5267

    [57]Feb 12, 2010
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    those two eye colors could be a way to distinguish between a male Z and female Z

    guys, do you think this new poke could be a pseudo legendary?

    found this:

    Update (11:30 AM) - Yaminokame has translated CoroCoro's commentary, and we've included what we think is important in this paragraph (since most of it is just unimportant hyping). They state, "It seems like something is after Celebi! Celebi is a hair away from danger!! Who is Celebi being chased by in the forest!?" Considering they say "hair," they're obviously telling us Zoroark is after Celebi. The first teaser trailer showed us something was chasing Celebi, and Zoroark's claw slashing even formed the animation for the "Z" in the movie's title. The magazine also states Zoroark and Zorua are in a huge rage, though for what reason we do not know why. As for Zoroark's Pokemon ability, CoroCoro goes out of its way to mention it but purposefully hide it, suggesting it will be important to the movie. They ask us, "What could the relation between Zoroark and the Ruler of Illusions be...!? Is there a secret in its ability!?" As of right now, the magazine is not officially linking Zoroark to whoever the "Ruler of Illusions" is, but since they mention it has a special ability, we can probably assume the ability is related to illusions and that Zoroark is in fact the "Ruler of Illusions," as the title of the movie suggests. After all, the magazine says Zoroark holds the key to the movie.

    Update (2:30 PM) - The CoroCoro page also mentions that a new method of evolution may be involved for evolving Zorua into Zoroark. The page asks, "Could we see a new method of evolution!?" Thanks goes to DorianBlack for catching this overlooked detail. What could it mean?

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    edmasterchaos

    [58]Feb 12, 2010
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    Doubt it's pseudo-legendary, it'll probably just be kinda strong but not near the OU tier.
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    halozi10

    [59]Feb 12, 2010
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    heres what i want

    -a baby for of scyther

    -a baby form of kangashkan

    -a dragon eevelution

    -a poison eeveelution

    -a ghost eeveelution

    -an AWESOME fire type starter

    -somethin else for haunter to evolve into

    an evolved form of (sotty bout spelling) aerodactyl

    -a new snorlax evolution

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    edmasterchaos

    [60]Feb 12, 2010
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    halozi10 wrote:

    heres what i want

    -a baby for of scyther

    -a baby form of kangashkan

    -a dragon eevelution

    -a poison eeveelution

    -a ghost eeveelution

    -an AWESOME fire type starter

    -somethin else for haunter to evolve into

    an evolved form of (sotty bout spelling) aerodactyl

    -a new snorlax evolution

    -Huh, you're the third or fouth person i heard wanting that, not htat i'm against it.

    -Sorry, part of the mystery of evolution sub-plot, any pokemon that has no evolution line by now will likely not get one ever.

    -Nothing against

    -Nothing agasint

    -Nothing against

    -Charizard is the manifestation of awesome, Typhlosion owns and Infernape is freakin' Infernape, i think we don't need to worry much about the level of awesome for the fire starter

    -Why? Gengar is an awesome sweeper.

    -Same with what i said about Khanghaskan.

    - Snorlax is already powerful, no need for it to evolve further.

    Edited on 02/12/2010 8:39pm
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