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    Adv193

    [81]May 13, 2009
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    I agree that the whole skateboard and Sept. 11 release date thing is likely false because of the lack of additional sources and that Bulbapedia's Bulbanews also confirms these as fake.
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    i_hated_hoenn

    [82]May 13, 2009
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    yugiohfan99 wrote:
    How would the skateboard work with Pokemon following you?
    in yellow version pikachu disappeared when you got on a bike and then reappeared when you were off it so maybe it will be that way in trhis game too

    edmasterchaos wrote:
    i_hated_hoenn wrote:

    ok heres my input: i never realized this but the gold silver and crstal series actually had the most changes and some of those changes werent even incorporated into the newer games which i still hate and those changes include the radio option, making balls from, apricorn, etc and am i the only oe who hates the fact that you cant deposit items? its nice to have an item available to your whim but i dont like carrying around a bunch of items that i know i wont be using for awhile...

    Well, Zafari Zone was going to show up the first time around, it was designed and added to the game, but in the last second it was decided to not use it, leaving a zafari zone with no pokemon that can only be entered by hack.

    About those changes, the radio, i could easily live without, the apricorn balls, i have mixed feelings, they were replaced with better balls that you can simply buy rather than wait some time for it. And, i never once used the item deposit, on any game, the bag was big enough for me...

    Well, all i can say now is, hope next update gives us more info.
    well there were plenty of changes that i liked but those were the few i bothered to bring up. im not saying ill die if i dont have the radio option but i liked it alot. and if what you say is true about the safari zone then maybe we will be getting one it'll be interesting to see how whirlpool looks outside of battle (and exciting for me at least). oh and i really miss the money saving option. i wasnt a big fan of my mom using it to buy something every now and then but its nice to get a little money when you're a little broke LOL

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    EddyBob15

    [83]May 13, 2009
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    Hey, does anyone take these games as a sign that Ash and co. will be returning to Johto? We might see the GS Ball plotline picked back up.
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    Shurikangirl

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    EddyBob15 wrote:
    Hey, does anyone take these games as a sign that Ash and co. will be returning to Johto? We might see the GS Ball plotline picked back up.
    I doubt the GS ball will be brought up again. But maybe the New Battle Frontier will be in Johto, giving Ash the chance to get to come back to Johto.
    Edited on 05/13/2009 8:13pm
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    SPDShadowRanger

    [85]May 13, 2009
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    After seeing the Hoenn Battle Frontier in Kanto you actually can't see that possibility?
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    i_hated_hoenn

    [86]May 14, 2009
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    EddyBob15 wrote:
    Hey, does anyone take these games as a sign that Ash and co. will be returning to Johto? We might see the GS Ball plotline picked back up.
    well all it is is just a remake when firered and leafgreen came out they didnt go back to kanto.

    Shurikangirl wrote:
    I doubt the GS ball will be brought up again. But maybe the New Battle Frontier will be in Johto, giving Ash the chance to get to come back to Johto.
    i dont think that will be so but even if it was in johto i dont think they would go back because they didnt go back to kanto during the first battle frontier (well he always goes back to kanto before every region but only pallet town)

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    BAC510

    [88]May 14, 2009
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    i_hated_hoenn wrote:

    EddyBob15 wrote:
    Hey, does anyone take these games as a sign that Ash and co. will be returning to Johto? We might see the GS Ball plotline picked back up.
    well all it is is just a remake when firered and leafgreen came out they didnt go back to kanto.

    Shurikangirl wrote:
    I doubt the GS ball will be brought up again. But maybe the New Battle Frontier will be in Johto, giving Ash the chance to get to come back to Johto.
    i dont think that will be so but even if it was in johto i dont think they would go back because they didnt go back to kanto during the first battle frontier (well he always goes back to kanto before every region but only pallet town)

    Are you serious? Are you on drugs? Ash & Co. went to Kanto during the Advanced Generation Series for the Kanto Battle Frontier, key word= Kanto.

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    Pikachu315111

    [89]May 14, 2009
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    BAC510 wrote:
    i_hated_hoenn wrote:

    EddyBob15 wrote:
    Hey, does anyone take these games as a sign that Ash and co. will be returning to Johto? We might see the GS Ball plotline picked back up.
    well all it is is just a remake when firered and leafgreen came out they didnt go back to kanto.

    Shurikangirl wrote:
    I doubt the GS ball will be brought up again. But maybe the New Battle Frontier will be in Johto, giving Ash the chance to get to come back to Johto.
    i dont think that will be so but even if it was in johto i dont think they would go back because they didnt go back to kanto during the first battle frontier (well he always goes back to kanto before every region but only pallet town)

    Are you serious? Are you on drugs? Ash & Co. went to Kanto during the Advanced Generation Series for the Kanto Battle Frontier, key word= Kanto.

    Okay, to clear this whole think up:

    Ash went back to Kanto because that is where his home town is (you know, Pallet Town). Ash was going home to see his mom, Professor Oak, and Tracey; he had no idea that the Battle Frontier even existed until he met Scott and Agatha in Viridian City. After seeing his mom, Professor Oak, Tracey, and a surprise visit by Gary, Misty, Professor Birch and Max he then set out through Kanto once more to challenge the Battle Frontier right when Brock and May joined back into his party.

    The main point I'm trying to make is that Ash didn't go to Kanto for the Battle Frontier, he went to Kanto to drop in and say "hi" to everyone at home. Of course when he heard about the Battle Frontier he took the challenge, but that was not his main reason for going back to Kanto after Hoenn. It is his reason to travel through it again though (We have to keep Ash busy while the plotline for the next region is being drawn up).

    This is why I'm having a problem seeing Ash going to Johto, he has no reason to go there unless he somehow hears there is a Battle Frontier there. It would be easier just to have a place in Sinnoh where the Battle Frontier could be so Ash could go through it while he is still in Sinnoh and then after it he can go home, say "hi", and move onto the next region.

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    Yusei08

    [90]May 14, 2009
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    Pikachu315111 wrote:
    BAC510 wrote:
    i_hated_hoenn wrote:

    EddyBob15 wrote:
    Hey, does anyone take these games as a sign that Ash and co. will be returning to Johto? We might see the GS Ball plotline picked back up.
    well all it is is just a remake when firered and leafgreen came out they didnt go back to kanto.

    Shurikangirl wrote:
    I doubt the GS ball will be brought up again. But maybe the New Battle Frontier will be in Johto, giving Ash the chance to get to come back to Johto.
    i dont think that will be so but even if it was in johto i dont think they would go back because they didnt go back to kanto during the first battle frontier (well he always goes back to kanto before every region but only pallet town)

    Are you serious? Are you on drugs? Ash & Co. went to Kanto during the Advanced Generation Series for the Kanto Battle Frontier, key word= Kanto.

    Okay, to clear this whole think up:

    Ash went back to Kanto because that is where his home town is (you know, Pallet Town). Ash was going home to see his mom, Professor Oak, and Tracey; he had no idea that the Battle Frontier even existed until he met Scott and Agatha in Viridian City. After seeing his mom, Professor Oak, Tracey, and a surprise visit by Gary, Misty, Professor Birch and Max he then set out through Kanto once more to challenge the Battle Frontier right when Brock and May joined back into his party.

    The main point I'm trying to make is that Ash didn't go to Kanto for the Battle Frontier, he went to Kanto to drop in and say "hi" to everyone at home. Of course when he heard about the Battle Frontier he took the challenge, but that was not his main reason for going back to Kanto after Hoenn. It is his reason to travel through it again though (We have to keep Ash busy while the plotline for the next region is being drawn up).

    This is why I'm having a problem seeing Ash going to Johto, he has no reason to go there unless he somehow hears there is a Battle Frontier there. It would be easier just to have a place in Sinnoh where the Battle Frontier could be so Ash could go through it while he is still in Sinnoh and then after it he can go home, say "hi", and move onto the next region.



    To be honest, I think it will be in Johto. Don't know the circumstances of him finding out, might find out about it from Professor Oak or maybe even Brandon in the next episode lol, or maybe he decides to go there to see May compete in the Johto Grand Festival and hears about it then.
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    Pikachu315111

    [91]May 14, 2009
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    Yusei08 wrote:
    Pikachu315111 wrote:
    Okay, to clear this whole think up:

    Ash went back to Kanto because that is where his home town is (you know, Pallet Town). Ash was going home to see his mom, Professor Oak, and Tracey; he had no idea that the Battle Frontier even existed until he met Scott and Agatha in Viridian City. After seeing his mom, Professor Oak, Tracey, and a surprise visit by Gary, Misty, Professor Birch and Max he then set out through Kanto once more to challenge the Battle Frontier right when Brock and May joined back into his party.

    The main point I'm trying to make is that Ash didn't go to Kanto for the Battle Frontier, he went to Kanto to drop in and say "hi" to everyone at home. Of course when he heard about the Battle Frontier he took the challenge, but that was not his main reason for going back to Kanto after Hoenn. It is his reason to travel through it again though (We have to keep Ash busy while the plotline for the next region is being drawn up).

    This is why I'm having a problem seeing Ash going to Johto, he has no reason to go there unless he somehow hears there is a Battle Frontier there. It would be easier just to have a place in Sinnoh where the Battle Frontier could be so Ash could go through it while he is still in Sinnoh and then after it he can go home, say "hi", and move onto the next region.

    To be honest, I think it will be in Johto. Don't know the circumstances of him finding out, might find out about it from Professor Oak or maybe even Brandon in the next episode lol, or maybe he decides to go there to see May compete in the Johto Grand Festival and hears about it then.

    I didn't even think about Ash going over to Johto to see May compete in the Johto Grand Festival. Hmm, I guess it's possible but will the Sinnoh League be over just in time for Ash and co. to take a trip over to see the Johto Grand Festival? Generally, Grand Festivals occur before league competitions (probably because they know there are trainers who compete in both *cough*Nando*cough*).

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    SPDShadowRanger

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    i_hated_hoenn wrote:
    when firered and leafgreen came out they didnt go back to kanto


    Because they were in the middle of Hoenn at the time, and they did travel Kanto immediately after.
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    i_hated_hoenn

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    BAC510 wrote:
    Are you serious? Are you on drugs? Ash & Co. went to Kanto during the Advanced Generation Series for the Kanto Battle Frontier, key word= Kanto.

    well whether the battle frontier existed or not he always goes back to kanto before every region but only pallet town anyways. the point im trying to make is i dont think they will go back to johto just because of a remake. maybe have some flashbacks or something

    SPDShadowRanger wrote:
    i_hated_hoenn wrote:
    when firered and leafgreen came out they didnt go back to kanto
    Because they were in the middle of Hoenn at the time, and they did travel Kanto immediately after.
    now that u mention i do remember them travelling with misty for a few episodes which was pretty cool but i think it was mere coincidence

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    Adv193

    [94]May 15, 2009
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    Back then I thought that the Battle Frontier arc may had been put in to help delay the series until after Diamond and Pearl were released.
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    Pikachu315111

    [95]May 15, 2009
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    Okay everyone, here is the latest updates from Bulbapedia:

    * Release date is Fall 2009, but no specific month or day was mentioned.


    (And look, we get to see Lugia and Ho-Oh in all their new stockart glory!)

    * The new female character is named Soul (And now has a Bulbapedia page).


    (I can already hear the Kris-fans rioting...)

    * Instead of picking your starter from a briefcase, you instead use a turn table-like storage machine with the starter inside the Poke Ball information and picture shown on the top screen.


    (And around, and around, and around it'll go! Which Starter will you choose? Only you know!)

    * PokeGear got redesigned with a new layout. It will appear on the bottom screen whenever you press "X" or "Start".


    (I'm gonna guess the 5 options we're shown here is Pokemon (Poke Ball), Bag Inventory (Backpack (might be a Duffle Bag for Soul)), Trainer ID (ID Card), Phone Numbers(?) (Notebook & Pencil), and Options (Wrench).)

    * The Arceus given away for the 12th Movie will activate a special event in Platinum (which Serebii has already found HERE).


    (Time to learn the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth)

    Oh, and here are some better Screenshots then the ones I got:

    Gold & Cyndaquil Outside Kurt's house in Azalea Town

    Gold & Totodile in front of a Team Rocket Grunt infront of Slowpoke Well in Azalea Town

    Cutscene upon entering Sprout Tower in Violet City

    Gold with Pikachu-colored Pichu who just noticed Notched-ear Pikachu infront of the Celebi Shrine in Ilex Forest

    And that's all I have!

    Edited on 05/15/2009 12:59pm
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    SPDShadowRanger

    [96]May 15, 2009
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    Actually, Soul is a fan made name. She is technically nameless.
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    Pikachu315111

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    SPDShadowRanger wrote:
    Actually, Soul is a fan made name. She is technically nameless.

    You're right, apparently they followed a "pattern" which was used for Leaf. If you want to know this "pattern", they just took the prefix of the 2nd version of the Generation II remakes which was how Leaf was named, her name is the prefix of the 2nd version of the Generation I remakes. Note that when I say 2nd version I mean the "partner version" which is mentioned last if you're using the game titles:

    FireRed & LeafGreen
    HeartGold & SoulSilver

    of course, like SPDShadowRanger said, this is all just speculations as she is still a complete enigma.

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    SPDShadowRanger

    [98]May 15, 2009
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    Although the above is true, Leaf is not a fan made name. The name actually appears in game data.
    Edited on 05/15/2009 4:34pm
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    Pikachu315111

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    SPDShadowRanger wrote:
    Although the above is true, Leaf is not a fan made name. The name actually appears in game data.

    I know, which is why people probably think the new female's name is Soul.

    Personally, I think she should be named Heart because Soul sounds more like a boy's name.

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    Omega_Porunga

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    I'm so syked(sp?)for HGSS. Too bad no more info will be revealed for a while. Based on the pics so far the starter will be following you but if there are already pics of Ecruteak city and Azaela town, shouldn't the starter be evolved by now? They are probably not showing the 2nd and 3rd evolution following yet to make us speculate more. Either that or the overworld sprite is kept in it's 1st evolution to conserve space.
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