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The Official Pokemon: Diamond and Pearl Anime Thread (Spoilers)

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    lostfan111

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    Hassan_Bajwa80 wrote:


    I never said he wouldn't, I'm saying what makes you think Takuto is evil? Seriously... You can't just look at his face and say he's evil, awful prediction right there, and seriously if he was evil he wouldn't have entered the league, now would he?



    Evil look, evil pokemon, beating everyone with one pokemon. Sounds evil. If you don't agree, that's fine

    Edited on 08/15/2010 1:53pm
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    FacelessHunter

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    lostfan111 wrote:

    Hassan_Bajwa80 wrote:


    I never said he wouldn't, I'm saying what makes you think Takuto is evil? Seriously... You can't just look at his face and say he's evil, awful prediction right there, and seriously if he was evil he wouldn't have entered the league, now would he?



    Evil look, evil pokemon, beating everyone with one pokemon. Sounds evil. If you don't agree, that's fine


    Darkrai isn't evil.
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    Aaerni

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    Hassan is right. If Takuto were evil, he wouldn't have entered the league. Evil trainers don't enter Pokemon League tournaments. Takuto is just an ordinary trainer who happens to own a Darkrai.

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    Hassan_Bajwa80

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    Evil Pokemon... how is Darkrai evil? he's a Dark Pokemon with the ability to give you nightmares, but that doesn't mean Darkrai is evil.

    Edited on 08/15/2010 1:58pm
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    Aaerni

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    Once again, Hassan is right. Darkrai is not evil, it's just a legendary Pokemon that happens to be a Dark-type with the ability to create nightmares.

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    lostfan111

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    Like someone said before, you can't assume whats going to happen in the anime. I just said he was evil. If he isnt, WHOO. But for now, he SEEMS evil. If YOU think he isn't, thats green beans.
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    z-agent

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    You two knock it off. No one of us created the show so cool it. Besides, we don't know how he received Darkrai. Besides we don't know much about him as well. Not enough episodes to give us some information. My hunch is that he may appear to be a normal trainer but he could be someone evil in disguise.
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    lostfan111

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    z-agent wrote:
    You two knock it off. No one of us created the show so cool it. Besides, we don't know how he received Darkrai. Besides we don't know much about him as well. Not enough episodes to give us some information. My hunch is that he may appear to be a normal trainer but he could be someone evil in disguise.



    I had the same hunch. Why else use Darkrai?

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    syrusfan

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    Yes, this whole thing is both pointless and stupid.


    I like Darkrai. Besides, I don't like Ash, so i look forward to Darkrai slaughtering his team.

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    FacelessHunter

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    lostfan111 wrote:

    FacelessHunter wrote:
    lostfan111 wrote:
    Like someone said before, you can't assume whats going to happen in the anime. I just said he was evil. If he isnt, WHOO. But for now, he SEEMS evil. If YOU think he isn't, thats green beans.
    Your such a broken record. and he doesn't even SEEM evil. What, do you consider Winnie the frigging pooh to be evil?


    Grow a pair, will you?


    I stated my opinion. It's different from yours. If you an issue with that, go jump of a cliff.



    I'm taking that as a yes.
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    lostfan111

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    syrusfan wrote:


    Yes, this whole thing is both pointless and stupid.


    I like Darkrai. Besides, I don't like Ash, so i look forward to Darkrai slaughtering his team.



    I wanted Paul to cream him. But the writers gave Paul a totally new team and made him lose. And Torterra didnt even get a win! Has he won since he evolved?

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    Aaerni

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    No, Torterra hasn't won a single battle since it evolved. And the battle between Ash and Paul isn't quite over yet either. It won't end until this upcoming Thursday, and the way I see it, it seems very likely that Ash will lose to Paul again, since Paul has two very strong Pokemon left and Ash has only three Pokemon left, and all three of Ash's remaining Pokemon are obviously very weak and tired. Infernape has already defeated two of Paul's Pokemon, I doubt it will have the strength left to defeat Electivire, and Ash's Pikachu and Gliscor are also looking pretty fatigued. So Paul could still cream Ash, just like you were hoping.

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    SleepingDeath0

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    Takuto isn't evil, so i don't know why you guys think he is...

    Edited on 08/15/2010 7:38pm
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    Pikachu315111

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    Enough of this fighting, before you get the board moderator, SPDShadowRanger, involved and you don't want that happening.


    To settle the issue on Takuto, WE KNOW NOTHING ABOUT HIM! All we know he has a Darkrai, defeated all the trainers and Gym Leaders that faced him only using said Darkrai, and his looks matches said Darkrai.


    Personally, I don't think he's evil, but he does want to prove he's the best so he got himself a Legendary and used it to slaughter anyone's Pokemon standing in his way. Now while he may not be evil, he can still be mean and be egotistical (and would you argue with a person who uses a Legendary as a common Pokemon, especially after he used it to defeat all your Pokemon single handedly?), but that just makes him a jerk and not evil (much like Paul). As for the way he dresses, well honestly he probably only looks that way to match his Darkrai. Would you be just as intimidated by his Darkrai if he wore bright colors, messy hair, and him having a cheery face?


    As for Darkrai, we've only seen one evil Darkrai so far and that was in the Mystery Dungeon games. The other two Darkrai's we've seen in the anime was good (and "sacrificed" itself to stop the two other rampaging Legendary Pokemon really causing the problems, Dialga and Palkia) and the other just acted like any other wild Pokemon but just so happened to cause nightmares (though luckily a Cresselia lived nearby to chase it away). And I doubt an evil Darkrai would let a "inferior" human use it as a tool to battle.


    As for why it was decided they needed a trainer with a Legendary, well honestly that's now probably the only thing which can now defeat Ash and knock him out of the tournament. As soon as Ash wins a Pokemon League it's intended that that's the end of his journey (though personally I would think he would keep on doing other competitions until he wins his home region's Pokemon League), so they need him to lose to go on to the next region. Let's go over the people who knocked Ash out of the leagues:


    Kanto - Ritchie - Used almost the same Pokemon Ash uses.
    Johto - Harrison - Used a Pokemon from the next Generation (Blaziken).
    Hoenn - Tyson - His main Pokemon that was the one to defeat Ash's last Pokemon was a Meowth that dresses up like the fairytale character Puss in Boots.
    Sinnoh - Takuto - Used a Legendary Pokemon (Darkrai).


    Now out of those four, which one seems the most oddest? Tyson wins that category, but really being it'll become increasingly boring for Ash to lose against a trainer the same way he did in the last League they try to keep things interesting so this time they decided to use a Legendary. Oh, and as its been said several times, it's probably not going to be Darkrai that gives Ash's last Pokemon its blow, Ash will probably atleast defeat Darkrai but only have one Pokemon remaining for Takuto's Pokemon that helped him catch Darkrai to tear apart.

    Edited on 08/15/2010 7:29pm
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    lostfan111

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    Pikachu315111 wrote:


    Now out of those four, which one seems the most oddest? Tyson wins that category, but really being it'll become increasingly boring for Ash to lose against a trainer the same way he did in the last League they try to keep things interesting so this time they decided to use a Legendary. Oh, and as its been said several times, it's probably not going to be Darkrai that gives Ash's last Pokemon its blow, Ash will probably atleast defeat Darkrai but only have one Pokemon remaining for Takuto's Pokemon that helped him catch Darkrai to tear apart.



    The Hoenn tournment was horrible. All the battles ended quickly. But you don't honestly think Meowth is stranger than Darkrai right? Tysons "main" was Meowth and he had personality so he had to beat Pikachu, right? Cause Pikachu was worn out from before.


    What if he caught Darkrai with a masterball? Cause how else could he catch that thing? Another legend?

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    Pikachu315111

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    lostfan111 wrote:


    Pikachu315111 wrote:


    Now out of those four, which one seems the most oddest? Tyson wins that category, but really being it'll become increasingly boring for Ash to lose against a trainer the same way he did in the last League they try to keep things interesting so this time they decided to use a Legendary. Oh, and as its been said several times, it's probably not going to be Darkrai that gives Ash's last Pokemon its blow, Ash will probably atleast defeat Darkrai but only have one Pokemon remaining for Takuto's Pokemon that helped him catch Darkrai to tear apart.



    The Hoenn tournment was horrible. All the battles ended quickly. But you don't honestly think Meowth is stranger than Darkrai right? Tysons "main" was Meowth and he had personality so he had to beat Pikachu, right? Cause Pikachu was worn out from before.


    What if he caught Darkrai with a masterball? Cause how else could he catch that thing? Another legend?



    Well honestly Darkrai is one of the "lesser" Legendaries. Now we have "higher" Legendaries like Mewtwo, Mew, Lugia, Ho-Oh, Celebi, Groudon, Kyogre, Rayquaza, Jirachi, Deoxys, Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Manaphy, Shaymin, and Arceus which catching them would cause great destruction to the world. However then then have other like the trio members and any additional "extra" Legendary which don't seem that important (infact there are a few "higher" Legendaries that I listed which could count for a "lesser" Legendary. The "lesser" Legendaries seem to be Legendaries which (if they are not linked to the environment where they roam like the Bird Trio in the 2nd movie) won't cause much harm by catching it and provide you with a very powerful Pokemon.


    And it's not like a Legendary hasn't been defeated before, Ash defeated two. Charizard single handedly fought an Articuno battling on Noland's behalf and in his full battle against Branden, Ash managed to defeat Regice with Pikachu having also tired it out with his other Pokemon in that battle. So here's a question I present to you: If Ash defeated Legendaries before and he does catch one in the future (not happening, but go along with me here), does that mean to you he would have deserved it? If not, why? If you can defeat a Legendary surely you can control one, and I doubt Ash is the first person to defeat a Legendary.


    As it was shown in the Branden full battle, you can defeat a Legendary so surely it isn't impossible to preserve Takuto maybe going all out with 5 or 6 other Pokemon to the point which Darkrai can't battle no longer and catches it. Could he catch it in a Master Ball? I guess, would be kind of a boring back story on how he got his Darkrai, but defeating 8 Gym Leaders with Darkrai alone isn't a small feet (especially if one of those Gyms is a Fighting-type like Veilstone's is) as well as going through the Sinnoh League with little trouble defeating other competing trainers who themselves have defeated 8 Gym Leaders so I say it almost breaks even here.


    If you're having trouble believing Takuto deserves to use Darkrai, I say let the Sinnoh League decide that. Surely if he doesn't deserve it the Elite Four and Cynthia would beat Darkrai with little trouble and precede to do the same with his other Pokemon.

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    Aaerni

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    I agree with you. Takuto using Darkrai is perfectly fair.

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    syrusfan

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    I like the fact a trainer uses a Legendary. It makes more sense if Ash loses to him.

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